[urgent assistance] 198.32.0.0/16 - Disappeared...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paging Bill Manning... Unfortunately, we've tried to reach Bill, as well as other folks at EP.NET to no avail, and this is impacting us quite negatively. [snip] Not available in any routing tables I have access to or any of the looking glasses from http://www.nanog.org/lookingglass.html. this is significant because any in-addr blocks that are authoritative @ flag.ep.net and dot.ep.net will now suffer from reverse name resolution issues. - From ATT route server: route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table - From CerfNET route server: route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table Allstream Toronto: route-server.east>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table This has been a problem since yesterday evening. [snip] FYI, some of our address space has been sub-allocated via EP.net and relies on it's reachability: [DOMAIN whois information for EP.NET ] Domain Name: EP.NET Namespace: ICANN Unsponsored Generic TLD - http://www.icann.org TLD Info: See IANA Whois - http://www.iana.org/root-whois/net.htm Registry: VeriSign, Inc. - http://www.verisign-grs.com Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. - http://www.networksolutions.com Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Name Server[whois+dns with ip] DOT.EP.NET 198.32.2.10 Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: DOT.EP.NET 2001:478:6:0:230:48FF:FE22:6A29 Name Server[whois+dns with ip] FLAG.EP.NET 198.32.4.13 Updated Date: 11-Jan-2007 Creation Date: 09-Dec-1994 Expiration Date: 08-Dec-2012 Status: clientTransferProhibited [whois.networksolutions.com] Welcome to the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS Server. The IP address from which you have visited the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS database is contained within a list of IP addresses that may have failed to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy. Failure to abide by this policy can adversely impact our systems and servers, preventing the processing of other WHOIS requests. To see the Network Solutions WHOIS Policy, click on or copy and paste the following URL into your browser: http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jhtml If you feel that you have received this message in error, please contact us at: whoisquery@networksolutions.com and include the following information: Whois Query: domain ep.net YOUR IP address is 216.151.198.186 Date and Time of Query: Fri May 11 21:39:55 EDT 2007 Reason Code: CE [whois.networksolutions.com] Please contact me off-list is you have any inisght into this. Thanks, - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.1 (Build 1012) wj8DBQFGRRydq1pz9mNUZTMRAt1RAJ0daUTj2zsy4yw9Yq83mTgQdYBXcQCg+lgC Hs2XTn1hp42IjMLXmTfU4Vs= =D8x5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Fergie wrote:
Paging Bill Manning...
Unfortunately, we've tried to reach Bill, as well as other folks at EP.NET to no avail, and this is impacting us quite negatively.
Congratulations, finally, after almost a year after the shutdown and deprecation of the 6bone address space, returning it to IANA, all the 6bone prefixes are finally gone from the IPv6 routing tables at all ISP's peering with GRH (which thus more or less gives a global IPv6 BGP view) grh.sixxs.net> show bgp 3ffe::/16 longer-prefixes grh.sixxs.net> (aka none ;) Checking http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/6bone/ pTLA: 3ffe::/24 Country: us NetName: ROOT66/US-CA ASN: AS4555 Allocated: 1997-08-14 Last Seen: 2007-05-10 12:17:22 pTLA: 3ffe:800::/24 Country: us NetName: ISI-LAP/US-CA ASN: 4555 Allocated: 1997-08-14 Last Seen 2007-05-10 12:17:22 Thanks Bill for finally(!) shutting down the machines that you where still using for announcing these prefixes. This definitely shows that everybody is done experimenting with IPv6, expect for the upcoming Great IPv6 Experiment of course ;) For the folks still using only IPv4: Remember that Geoff Huston and Tony Hain have now aligned their prognoses for IPv4 Address Depletion: 2009 is the new date, so if you are not doing IPv6 yet, you better start doing something about it, or you will be too late, and everybody who did do something about it, is going to point and laugh at you while ridiculing you saying "we told you so", which is going to be quite a lot of fun :) Greets, Jeroen (only partially kidding, but it was time that 6bone routes finally disappeared, he can resurrect the rest of ep.net though)
Is it just me or is this happening again? Re-paging ;-) Thanks Chris Fergie wrote:
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Paging Bill Manning...
Unfortunately, we've tried to reach Bill, as well as other folks at EP.NET to no avail, and this is impacting us quite negatively.
[snip]
Not available in any routing tables I have access to or any of the looking glasses from http://www.nanog.org/lookingglass.html.
this is significant because any in-addr blocks that are authoritative @ flag.ep.net and dot.ep.net will now suffer from reverse name resolution issues.
- From ATT route server:
route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table
- From CerfNET route server:
route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table
Allstream Toronto:
route-server.east>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13 % Network not in table
This has been a problem since yesterday evening.
[snip]
FYI, some of our address space has been sub-allocated via EP.net and relies on it's reachability:
[DOMAIN whois information for EP.NET ] Domain Name: EP.NET Namespace: ICANN Unsponsored Generic TLD - http://www.icann.org TLD Info: See IANA Whois - http://www.iana.org/root-whois/net.htm Registry: VeriSign, Inc. - http://www.verisign-grs.com Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. - http://www.networksolutions.com Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Name Server[whois+dns with ip] DOT.EP.NET 198.32.2.10 Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: DOT.EP.NET 2001:478:6:0:230:48FF:FE22:6A29 Name Server[whois+dns with ip] FLAG.EP.NET 198.32.4.13 Updated Date: 11-Jan-2007 Creation Date: 09-Dec-1994 Expiration Date: 08-Dec-2012 Status: clientTransferProhibited [whois.networksolutions.com] Welcome to the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS Server.
The IP address from which you have visited the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS database is contained within a list of IP addresses that may have failed to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy. Failure to abide by this policy can adversely impact our systems and servers, preventing the processing of other WHOIS requests.
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Whois Query: domain ep.net YOUR IP address is 216.151.198.186 Date and Time of Query: Fri May 11 21:39:55 EDT 2007 Reason Code: CE [whois.networksolutions.com]
Please contact me off-list is you have any inisght into this.
Thanks,
- - ferg
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-- Chris Griffin cgriffin@ufl.edu Sr. Network Engineer - CCNP Phone: (352) 273-1051 CNS - Network Services Fax: (352) 392-9440 University of Florida/FLR Gainesville, FL 32611
On 31-Aug-2007, at 0840, Chris Griffin wrote:
Is it just me or is this happening again? Re-paging ;-)
Since 198.32.0.0/16 is cut up and used by many, many different people in many disconnected networks, it seems to me that the absence of 198.32.0.0/16 in the RIB is a feature, not a bug. (And I'm fairly sure this was pointed out last time, too :-) Joe
However 198.32.2.10 and 198.32.4.13 (ep.net DNS) are not covered by any active prefix right now, 198.32/16 or otherwise, so that is a bug and not a feature ;-) I am not so concerned about 198.32/16 not showing up as I am that no other prefix which will handle those hosts is either. Thanks Chris Joe Abley wrote:
On 31-Aug-2007, at 0840, Chris Griffin wrote:
Is it just me or is this happening again? Re-paging ;-)
Since 198.32.0.0/16 is cut up and used by many, many different people in many disconnected networks, it seems to me that the absence of 198.32.0.0/16 in the RIB is a feature, not a bug.
(And I'm fairly sure this was pointed out last time, too :-)
Joe
-- Chris Griffin cgriffin@ufl.edu Sr. Network Engineer - CCNP Phone: (352) 273-1051 CNS - Network Services Fax: (352) 392-9440 University of Florida/FLR Gainesville, FL 32611
On 31-Aug-2007, at 0933, Chris Griffin wrote:
However 198.32.2.10 and 198.32.4.13 (ep.net DNS) are not covered by any active prefix right now, 198.32/16 or otherwise, so that is a bug and not a feature ;-) I am not so concerned about 198.32/16 not showing up as I am that no other prefix which will handle those hosts is either.
A failure to reach ep.net's nameservers is presumably something to be taken up with ep.net, though, not NANOG :-) Looks like the failure was temporary: route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bgp regex _4555$ BGP table version is 213222472, local router ID is 198.32.162.100 Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal, S Stale Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path * 198.32.2.0 202.249.2.86 0 7500 2497 1239 4555 i * 207.172.6.20 5 0 6079 3356 1239 4555 i * 209.10.12.160 0 4513 701 1239 4555 i * 65.106.7.139 3 0 2828 1239 4555 i (etc, etc) Joe
* jabley@ca.afilias.info (Joe Abley) [Fri 31 Aug 2007, 16:10 CEST]:
A failure to reach ep.net's nameservers is presumably something to be taken up with ep.net, though, not NANOG :-)
Huh. flag.ep.net was renamed flag.ip4.int? Given that the best I can find out about ip4.int is a very brief and long-expired I-D from 1996, why is this domain still in the root zone? At least ip6.int. was actually used for a brief time... -- Niels.
participants (5)
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Chris Griffin
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Fergie
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Jeroen Massar
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Joe Abley
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Niels Bakker