Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:23:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Thomas <robt@cymru.com> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu

You can save the rotten fruit for my presentation instead. I'm a moving target, and that makes it much more fun. :)

Except for the fact that Cliff is still with us, I would think Rob was the reincarnated soul of Cliff Stoll. Almost as fun to watch as he is interesting to hear. Except for the objections of the hotel staff, I would love to see a few lobbed in his direction. Rob would be fine. No tomato ever was picked that could keep up with him, but the action would be spectacular! Wouldn't surprise me if he could even manage to get one thrower to land on on another. (I'm sure Cliff could.) Sadly, I almost always miss the Fall NANOG due to my commitments to the ACM/IEEE SC conference. But I'm with Rob and the saner heads in recommending against the tomatoes. It's just the sort of idea that would appeal to many NANOGers but would get extremely negative press reaction (and VeriSign would be sure that the press heard all about THEIR view of whatever happens) and the admin people at VeriSign who are the villains will not be there. Their generally very competent (and often supportive) technical folks will be the only ones directly impacted. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634