Here is the official BellSouth company line. http://www.bellsouthcorp.com/proactive/documents/render/34382.vtml A lot of marketing hype. However some key points: - Planning for four POPs in south FL which will be fully messed via a DWDM core. - Only one POP will be for co-lo. - First phase will be ATM. Planning on offering Ethernet soon. - Will be carrier independent. Will not be tied to BellSouth, you can use any carrier to connect into a POP. ...djr...
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Date: 2000/12/21 Thu AM 08:49:15 EST To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: florida ix(en) facing south
i get rumors of one or more exchange points being built in south florida where there may be good participation by latin and caribbean networks. any good gossip, pointers, ...? any choices which are not carrier jails?
randy
Also sprach Deron J . Ringen
Here is the official BellSouth company line.
http://www.bellsouthcorp.com/proactive/documents/render/34382.vtml
- Will be carrier independent. Will not be tied to BellSouth, you can use any carrier to connect into a POP.
I'll believe this one when I see it. BellSouth talks a good talk about being open and fair and fostering competition, but there's no walk. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
Randy - and then there is the academic piece: AMPATH, a grant funded partnership between Global Crossing and FIU http://www.ampath.fiu.edu/ which connects the academic networks served by GC in latin america w/ Abilene/startap/vBNS partners via FIU (Miami). CUDI (Mexico), REUNA (Chili), and RNP2 (Brazil) connect to I2 via seperate paths (west coast I think). Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing Center University of Oregon llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu (541) 346-1774 Cell: (541) 912-7998 5419127998@mobile.att.net Key fingerprint = 2C 80 2F 8C 5F 68 37 E3 AC 16 09 F1 36 E4 61 15
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:45:04 EST, "Deron J.Ringen" <djr@eng.bellsouth.net> said:
A lot of marketing hype. However some key points: - Planning for four POPs in south FL which will be fully messed via a DWDM core.
Umm.. did you mean meshed, or is it suspected that it will be correct as stated? ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
Listen, it's 55 degrees in miami and my brain obviously suffers below 60. It will be meshed not messed, both network wise and physical fibre wise. Obviously as they add nodes (or if they add) it will not be a fully meshed physical design. I'd also like to know what other considerations are important. +Is it important not to have a NAP node in a hurricane evacuation zone? (ie perhaps even on the water). -The blding can be built to withstand the hurricane however when their is a hurricane in a certain geographical "box" the police block the roads denying access -In miami it is East of US1 that is the evac zone +Is a single node NAP acceptable. -A failure would mean likely reroute to another domestic NAP so perhaps this is acceptable. -Does this make too great a target for activists with an agenda? +What are the most important features desired? -Customer visibility and provisioning -private vs public peering design etc etc dd At 3:16 PM -0500 12/21/00, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:45:04 EST, "Deron J.Ringen" <djr@eng.bellsouth.net> said:
A lot of marketing hype. However some key points: - Planning for four POPs in south FL which will be fully messed via a DWDM core.
Umm.. did you mean meshed, or is it suspected that it will be correct as stated?
;)
-- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, David Diaz wrote:
I'd also like to know what other considerations are important.
I learned in a NANOG long ago that you need to be able answer the question "What happens if a airplane crashes into it". :-)
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, David Diaz wrote:
I'd also like to know what other considerations are important.
Can you get to the facility without being mugged/beaten/etc? It was a number of years ago that I was in that neighborhood, but it wasn't too nice at night, especially if you are walking over from the people mover. I guess the real estate is cheap, but you have to imagine that a colo facility stays open after dark. C
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Charles Sprickman wrote:
Can you get to the facility without being mugged/beaten/etc? It was a number of years ago that I was in that neighborhood, but it wasn't too nice at night, especially if you are walking over from the people mover.
I guess the real estate is cheap, but you have to imagine that a colo facility stays open after dark.
Florida has a relatively easy CWP process. Maybe you'll want an additional tool when working in dowtown Miami after dark. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
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