
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 05:06:42PM -0800, Dee McKinney wrote:
This from the SuSE Linux mail list may help :-)
Forwarded message from "Lewis E. Wolfgang" <wolfgang@nosc.mil>
Something is definitely rotten here.
Whois reports:
Server Name: SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
The only thing rotten is the mellon inside your skull... This is someone playing around with domains in the whois database so that when you search for slashdot.org it comes up with that as well... Another example is from microsoft.com, one of the results is: MICROSOFT.COM.WHOIS.RESULTS.MAKE.A.GREAT.HUMOUR-LIST.COM The levels of stupidity generated when slashdot is up are bad enough, lets not try to set new records while it is down. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)

"Richard A. Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net> wrote:
The only thing rotten is the mellon inside your skull...
Having a bad day ?
This is someone playing around with domains in the whois database so that when you search for slashdot.org it comes up with that as well... Another example is from microsoft.com, one of the results is:
MICROSOFT.COM.WHOIS.RESULTS.MAKE.A.GREAT.HUMOUR-LIST.COM
The levels of stupidity generated when slashdot is up are bad enough, lets not try to set new records while it is down.
Yes, I've been reading this list daily for a few years. I know it's just funny to watch what happens on some of the other lists :) Flame away if you don't have a life :)

--- Rich Fulton <rich@nullroute.net> wrote:
my lawn mower won't start... it must be exodus.
Be careful Rich, the next thing that happens is 15% or your technical expertise gets retired early. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season. randy --- [0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.

Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?] Deepak --- boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season. randy --- [0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.

Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Funny, I was looking at a stainless Mini-14 .223 this morning and thinking $499 is a good price. (Gun Show's are great on Sunday AM) Yes, our NOC has a large well equipped gun safe in it, it's also handy for backup tapes/CD's and expensive licensed software. But the most important part of this thread that was painfully obvious is our increasing addiction, if not outright dependence upon certain websites sponsored by well meaning companies (corporate sponsers) that may not be able to continue this financial support. Our business has a large open source centric software development angle, and it has actually impacted the way we do business, even over a weekend. It's Sunday AM, and there is a small team of geeks working on projects, at least CPAN, Sourceforge and other sites are up. As for routers being repossessed, we are spending this weekend setting up servers for some new clients that can not get into some other colo facilities because the landlord padlocked the doors to the NOC they were renting space/bandwidth from. Dispite all of the technical expertise available, many of these companies are suffering from financial realities that technology can not solve.

Was technology really supposed to change every aspect of the way we live in such a short period of time, when in most cases what was driving acceptance was just expenditure of money and NOT actual paradigm-shifting technology? I have a hard time believing any geeks voluntarily get up on a Sunday AM, so I am assuming you/they were up all night. Guns in your operations center.... hmmm. brings new meaning to the term "access terminated" eh? Deepak Jain -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:19 AM To: Deepak Jain Cc: Randy Bush; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Funny, I was looking at a stainless Mini-14 .223 this morning and thinking $499 is a good price. (Gun Show's are great on Sunday AM) Yes, our NOC has a large well equipped gun safe in it, it's also handy for backup tapes/CD's and expensive licensed software. But the most important part of this thread that was painfully obvious is our increasing addiction, if not outright dependence upon certain websites sponsored by well meaning companies (corporate sponsers) that may not be able to continue this financial support. Our business has a large open source centric software development angle, and it has actually impacted the way we do business, even over a weekend. It's Sunday AM, and there is a small team of geeks working on projects, at least CPAN, Sourceforge and other sites are up. As for routers being repossessed, we are spending this weekend setting up servers for some new clients that can not get into some other colo facilities because the landlord padlocked the doors to the NOC they were renting space/bandwidth from. Dispite all of the technical expertise available, many of these companies are suffering from financial realities that technology can not solve.

Andover has posted something about slashdot and other sites being down at http://216.136.171.207/ Bill Sehmel

Just wanted to drop a note saying that the OSDN network seems to be in operational mode. -Bill Sehmel

Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak
I diversified a few months before Y2K. I'm now into guns (no S&W, Ruger, or Colt), ammunition, and a few memberships to various RKBA/Pro Second Amendment organizations for the family. Regards, -- Joseph W. Shaw II Network Security Specialist/CCNA Unemployed. Will hack for food. God Bless.

maybe there should be a nanog range day :) On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Deepak Jain wrote:
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak
---
boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season.
randy
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[0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
Off-list there has been some emails flying about comparing various gun(s) in the NOC issues. Apparently lots of us work strange hours in bad places. Perhaps we can haul some hated junk equipment to the range and use it for target practice? So long as 'Going Postal' does not become 'Going NANOG'.

Am I the only one that thinks it is a bad idea to get people on this list together with firearms? ;-) North American Network Of Gun slingers Or, maybe this is way to resolve disputes? With targets of course. ;P jas -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:18 PM To: Christian Nielsen Cc: Deepak Jain; Randy Bush; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
Off-list there has been some emails flying about comparing various gun(s) in the NOC issues. Apparently lots of us work strange hours in bad places. Perhaps we can haul some hated junk equipment to the range and use it for target practice? So long as 'Going Postal' does not become 'Going NANOG'.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ...Perhaps all peering disputes should be settled on the range? Matt - -- Matt Levine @Home: matt@deliver3.com @Work: matt@eldosales.com ICQ : 17080004 PGP : http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0D04CF - -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Lewis Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:28 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down Am I the only one that thinks it is a bad idea to get people on this list together with firearms? ;-) North American Network Of Gun slingers Or, maybe this is way to resolve disputes? With targets of course. ;P jas - -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:18 PM To: Christian Nielsen Cc: Deepak Jain; Randy Bush; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
Off-list there has been some emails flying about comparing various gun(s) in the NOC issues. Apparently lots of us work strange hours in bad places. Perhaps we can haul some hated junk equipment to the range and use it for target practice? So long as 'Going Postal' does not become 'Going NANOG'. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOze8qsp0j1NsDQTPEQIo6QCgwIiaf9Huo2FfUrz2c8BboezdGjcAoLYi nQ37p3xp/ghylcflWQJ30yaC =MK1H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Peering agreements get resolved so much quicker, and almost no one mentions the word "lawyer". Or, it supports the idea that the Internet is still the wild west. Deepak -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Jason Lewis Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:28 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down Am I the only one that thinks it is a bad idea to get people on this list together with firearms? ;-) North American Network Of Gun slingers Or, maybe this is way to resolve disputes? With targets of course. ;P jas -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:18 PM To: Christian Nielsen Cc: Deepak Jain; Randy Bush; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Exodus Down On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
Off-list there has been some emails flying about comparing various gun(s) in the NOC issues. Apparently lots of us work strange hours in bad places. Perhaps we can haul some hated junk equipment to the range and use it for target practice? So long as 'Going Postal' does not become 'Going NANOG'.

> maybe there should be a nanog range day :) Mmmm... well, there's certainly a history of pre-NANOG field trips, and the next NANOG is in Oakland... Not to say that Oakland is a free-fire zone or anything, but it would certainly be easy enough to arrange for the use of a range the Sunday before the next meeting. :-) -Bill

There was at DC-Nanog, about 10 of us went out to Chantilly.. On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Deepak Jain wrote:
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak
---
boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season.
randy
---
[0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --

I'll pay the range fees. (If you shoot at my range!) On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Deepak Jain wrote:
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak
---
boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season.
randy
---
[0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc

Sounds like one of ESR's "Geeks With Guns" events in the making I tell ya. :) D At 4:59 AM -0400 6/26/01, John Fraizer wrote:
I'll pay the range fees. (If you shoot at my range!)
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Deepak Jain wrote:
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak
---
boys and girls. this is not a good time for the industry, and is likely to remain poor [0]. the karma from picking on a provider which is having a bad season at the moment may come back to haunt you next season.
randy
---
[0] - for the next years, invest in energy, big pharma, and guns, if you have the stomach.
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
-- +---------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | dredd@megacity.org | "Conan! What is best in life?" | | Derek J. Balling | "To crush your enemies, see them | | | driven before you, and to hear the | | | lamentation of their women!" | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------+

The next shirt. A picture of a bunch of folks in NANOG T-shirts with guns firing at backhoes... ;-) scott On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Christian Nielsen wrote:
maybe there should be a nanog range day :)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Deepak Jain wrote:
Whoever stopped investing in guns? [oops, did I say that outloud?]
Deepak

* scott w sez: : The next shirt. A picture of a bunch of folks in NANOG T-shirts with guns : firing at backhoes... ;-) Slogan: "The only hardware device known to reliably stop DoS"

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jonas Luster wrote:
* scott w sez:
: The next shirt. A picture of a bunch of folks in NANOG T-shirts with guns : firing at backhoes... ;-)
Slogan: "The only hardware device known to reliably stop DoS"
Which? The gun, or the backhoe? -j -- -Jonathan Disher -Sr. Systems and Network Engineer -Internet Pictures Corporation, San Ramon, CA -[v] (650) 280-4833 | [p] (877) 446-9311 | [e] jdisher@eng.ipix.com
participants (19)
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Alex Rubenstein
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Bill Woodcock
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Christian Nielsen
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Dee McKinney
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Deepak Jain
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Derek Balling
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Jason Lewis
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Jim Popovitch
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Joe Shaw
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John Fraizer
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Jonas Luster
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Jonathan Disher
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Matt Levine
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mike harrison
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Randy Bush
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Rich Fulton
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Richard A. Steenbergen
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scott w
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Sehmel, William C.