do you think fufme (http://www.fu-fme.com/) would work well over nat? :)))) -- Tomas Daniska systems engineer Tronet Computer Networks Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199 A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first.

-----Original Message----- From: Scott Francis [mailto:darkuncle@darkuncle.net] Sent: 3. mája 2002 9:13 To: Dan Hollis Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Large ISPs doing NAT?

On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:56:40PM -0700, goemon@anime.net said: [snip]

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I'm not buying a phone I can't run ssh from. End of story. My current phone does all that and more. Why step back into the dark ages of analog-type services?

The average customer doesn't even know what telnet is, let alone ssh. All they care about is browsing pr0n.

Your phone can surf porn? Maybe the technology revolution has finally arrived after all ...

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-Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]

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