At 11:06 AM 4/19/2006, jim bartus wrote:
They claim to be full too, at least from a power perspective. They won't run us more power until the city council aproves them running more power to the building.
-jim
There are likely to be sub leases available from tenants in existing. desirable, colocation and a good way to find them is via brokers. Be aware of a few things that have recently transpired. On many of the public colo houses earnings calls, they told analysts that they are trying to keep contracts to one year so they can raise prices year over year, that power pricing is fluid and many facilities are being expanded both space and environmental, that most locations really are full or being held down by lack of cooling for existing dense rack space. Basically get ready to hold out your wallet. I'd try Internap as a last resort (but a great one). Internap presence is not always facilities based (they own) but they tend to take inventory in good colo, place PNAP's, and sublet adjoining cabinets as Internap space. The catch is that if the facility is out of power, Internap is subjected to the same issues by default. I'm suggesting Internap because they have a good footprint and there's bound to be something somewhere. -M< -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com
On many of the public colo houses earnings calls, they told analysts that they are trying to keep contracts to one year so they can raise prices year over year, that power pricing is fluid and many facilities are being expanded both space and environmental, that most locations really are full or being held down by lack of cooling for existing dense rack space. Basically get ready to hold out your wallet.
Is it that? Or, is it some of these companies no realising that charging $250 for a 20 amp outlet is less than their cost, even three years ago? -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net
At 08:11 PM 4/19/2006, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
On many of the public colo houses earnings calls, they told analysts that they are trying to keep contracts to one year so they can raise prices year over year, that power pricing is fluid and many facilities are being expanded both space and environmental, that most locations really are full or being held down by lack of cooling for existing dense rack space. Basically get ready to hold out your wallet.
Is it that?
Or, is it some of these companies no realising that charging $250 for a 20 amp outlet is less than their cost, even three years ago?
I don't know, but I was selling only measured power in 2001 and people liked it. Granted, power was cheaper, but pay as you go was a good model. You still had to cool to breaker density, but it was nice to have no power risk and I would recommend that anyone who can, should convert to measured power billing. Remember when folks thought Exodus was crazy for 220w per square foot? -M< -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com
Marty Said...
At 08:11 PM 4/19/2006, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
On many of the public colo houses earnings calls, they told analysts that they are trying to keep contracts to one year so they can raise prices year over year, that power pricing is fluid and many facilities are being expanded both space and environmental, that most locations really are full or being held down by lack of cooling for existing dense rack space. Basically get ready to hold out your wallet.
Well, Peter Van Camp of Equinix was asked this during the (extremely informative) Equinix call for Q1 and said that many contracts being signed are still 2-year. The analyst who asked it made the (correct) assertion that shorter contracts are more advantageous now (for IDC providers), considering the tight data center market. And the market is really tight, especially in particular areas. I expect to see many more NANOG postings "where can I find good colocation in area X" over the next year. Of course, the colocation companies must raise their prices - for one thing, many folks got sweetheart deals during the lean years. For another, energy prices are way up, as we've all noticed, and IDCs use lots of juice. Finally, its supply and demand.
Is it that?
Or, is it some of these companies no realising that charging $250 for a 20 amp outlet is less than their cost, even three years ago?
I don't know, but I was selling only measured power in 2001 and people liked it. Granted, power was cheaper, but pay as you go was a good model. You still had to cool to breaker density, but it was nice to have no power risk and I would recommend that anyone who can, should convert to measured power billing.
If energy prices keep going up, one would think that submetered power would be the wave of the future, so that colos can pass through electricity prices - both direct electrical power consumed by the equipment, and the HVAC needed to dissipate the heat. The move to super-dense server platforms is a real killer. Anyone know of many colos currently submetering individual tenants?
Remember when folks thought Exodus was crazy for 220w per square foot?
Well, in hindsight that aspect of their plan was visionary. I don't suppose if anyone knows if the Exodus designed were seeking to future-proof in general, anticipated these dense server platforms, or just wanted to build more bigger? - Dan BTW, for the folks who like this stuff, there will hopefully be some great datacenter-related talks at NANOG this time, thanks to Josh Snowhorn. Its not too late to make a submission... :)
At 9:36 PM -0400 4/19/06, Martin Hannigan wrote:
Remember when folks thought Exodus was crazy for 220w per square foot?
265w/sqft can just handle today's typical blade server power density (allowing for a reasonable amount of wire management and slightly less than full blade loading). If you look at the densities of newly released blade servers, it is not hard to hit 300w+ / sq ft. The more amusing part is those attempting to cool this via raised floor systems, as it takes 24 to 30" of raised floor to achieve the necessary airflow, and this is only going to get worse. /John
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