I saw a few hackers (in sniffers, computers and personally), but I never saw anyone doing some hack without the reasons. Usually, if you do not see a reason, it is _your_ misunderstanding. Of course, reason can be as simple as _I have MS_ or as complicated as _here is my girlfriend, and if this system went down, she will be released earlier_ -:) /most common reason was, yep, _getting IRC control_). This allows to subtract (1) from severity , for this particular case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Py" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>; <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: RE: TCP-ACK vulnerability (was RE: SSH on the router)

Alexei Roudnev wrote: Even if I (if been a hacker) scan your networks and find this switch (and you did not moved it out of routable P), I will have not any idea, what is it about, where this switch is, and have not any reason to break it...

You (being a hacker) need a _reason_ to break into something? Where does this come from? Michel.