I think in all the recent cases, cogent ended up buying transit from verio. That was the case for access to AOL and Sprint when I turned off my cogent feed a week ago. I think that is also what they did with france telecom but I am not sure on that one as I never checked (I had other transit). Thanks, John van Oppen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Christopher Woodfield [mailto:rekoil@semihuman.com] Gesendet: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:39 AM An: Jon Lewis Cc: nanog@nanog.org Betreff: Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering I am curious - how did prior depeering "events" wind up being eventually resolved? What were the resolution times, if anyone remembers? -C On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
In the end, both providers lose, as customers buy real Internet transit from someone else.
OTOH, the industry as a whole probably gains. I have a client who's massively overprovisioned, multihomed with multiple Ts each to 3 or 4 providers now after being bitten a couple years ago when singlehomed to C&W and they depeered PSI. Funny that those PSI customers are getting screwed again now.
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Christopher Woodfield wrote:
Ah, the problem with playing chicken is what happens when neither player blinks...
-C
On Oct 5, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Vince Hoffman wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
A couple weeks later than expected, but as of Oct 5 02:51AM EDT it looks like 3356 and 174 are no longer reachable. lg.level3.net: Show Level 3 (Washington, DC) BGP routes for 38.9.51.20 No matching routes found for 38.9.51.20. www.cogentco.com looking glass: Tracing the route to www.Level3.com (209.245.19.42) 1 f29.ba01.b005944-0.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.56.189) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec 2 * * * 3 * * * I guess the earlier reports of (3)'s lack of testicular fortitude may have been exagerated after all. :)
It's sure causing a few headaches here. (from level3 looking glass) Show Level 3 (London, England) BGP routes for 38.9.51.20 No matching routes found for 38.9.51.20 As of 16:22 BST Level3 still seems to have no routes for cogent's space. thats about 5 hours now. Vince
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On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:49 PM, John van Oppen wrote:
I think in all the recent cases, cogent ended up buying transit from verio.
That was the case for access to AOL and Sprint when I turned off my cogent feed a week ago. I think that is also what they did with france telecom but I am not sure on that one as I never checked (I had other transit).
When AOL de-peered Cogent, they got to AOL via Above.Net. But that was a long time ago. When Teleglobe de-peered Cogent, Teleglobe turned the peering back on. I guess Cogent's attitude of "this hurts you more than me" worked. When FT de-peered Cogent, Cogent bought (more) transit from Verio. -- TTFN, patrick
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