Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ
Hey Nanog, Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers. Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option. I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap). Thanks, Josh Niec Senior Network Engineer -- <https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/>19 N Sangamon St. Chicago, IL 60607 855.468.2789 *TASTYWORKS IS HERE!! *Have you heard about tastyworks yet? _*CLICK HERE <https://tastyworks.com/>*_ to be notified of updates regarding our new brokerage firm.__ Thank you for your communication to tastytrade. To enhance your tastytrade experience, our on-air hosts invite our viewers to submit commentary and questions by email. Consistent with the content provided on our shows, our responses are intended to be general communications that are not geared toward any person’s individual circumstances. If you ask us how to implement a specific strategy, we will explain the basics of the strategy to you as part of our educational process. Our responses do not constitute trading or investment advice or recommendations. You are responsible for making any trading decisions. The strategies or trades that tastytrade uses as examples may not be suitable for you. tastytrade is not a licensed financial advisor, a registered investment adviser or a registered broker-dealer.
Crown doesn't have their own intercity fiber from Chicago, so they must be riding on someone's IRU. I was going to recommend looking at the carrier list for CyrusOne - Aurora. While obviously not where you're wanting to go, it would provide you with a list of carriers that cater to that space and you could start on that list. Unfortunately, they don't provide that on their site anymore. I assume that since you're on at least part of Spread Networks that latency is of at least some interest. I do find it odd that CenturyLink\Level 3 couldn't provide path diversity. Maybe not being completely on the Spread path the whole way cuts down your options. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Niec" <josh.niec@tastytrade.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:45:25 PM Subject: Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ Hey Nanog, Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers. Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option. I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap). Thanks, Josh Niec Senior Network Engineer 19 N Sangamon St. Chicago, IL 60607 855.468.2789 TASTYWORKS IS HERE!! Have you heard about tastyworks yet? CLICK HERE to be notified of updates regarding our new brokerage firm. Thank you for your communication to tastytrade. To enhance your tastytrade experience, our on-air hosts invite our viewers to submit commentary and questions by email. Consistent with the content provided on our shows, our responses are intended to be general communications that are not geared toward any person’s individual circumstances. If you ask us how to implement a specific strategy, we will explain the basics of the strategy to you as part of our educational process. Our responses do not constitute trading or investment advice or recommendations. You are responsible for making any trading decisions. The strategies or trades that tastytrade uses as examples may not be suitable for you. tastytrade is not a licensed financial advisor, a registered investment adviser or a registered broker-dealer.
I would take a look at Windstream I believe they have a route that goes more south. Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:36 PM Josh Niec <josh.niec@tastytrade.com> wrote:
Hey Nanog,
Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers.
Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option.
I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap).
Thanks,
Josh Niec
Senior Network Engineer
<https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/> 19 N Sangamon St. Chicago, IL 60607 855.468.2789 *TASTYWORKS IS HERE!! *Have you heard about tastyworks yet? *CLICK HERE <https://tastyworks.com/>* to be notified of updates regarding our new brokerage firm. Thank you for your communication to tastytrade. To enhance your tastytrade experience, our on-air hosts invite our viewers to submit commentary and questions by email. Consistent with the content provided on our shows, our responses are intended to be general communications that are not geared toward any person’s individual circumstances. If you ask us how to implement a specific strategy, we will explain the basics of the strategy to you as part of our educational process. Our responses do not constitute trading or investment advice or recommendations. You are responsible for making any trading decisions. The strategies or trades that tastytrade uses as examples may not be suitable for you. tastytrade is not a licensed financial advisor, a registered investment adviser or a registered broker-dealer.
Visit https://live.infrapedia.com will show you several options On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 13:18 Kaiser, Erich <erich@gotfusion.net> wrote:
I would take a look at Windstream I believe they have a route that goes more south.
Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network erich@gotfusion.net Office: 815-570-3101
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:36 PM Josh Niec <josh.niec@tastytrade.com> wrote:
Hey Nanog,
Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers.
Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option.
I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap).
Thanks,
Josh Niec
Senior Network Engineer
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