Yes, every week Proof https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+david=xtom.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Dovid Bender Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:46 AM To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Cogent emails Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?
We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method. Simon On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +0000, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
Yes, every week
Proof
I tell them to hit me up once they have direct peering with HE.net. Haven’t heard from them since. -Mike
On Sep 14, 2020, at 10:15, Simon Lockhart <simon@slimey.org> wrote:
We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method.
Simon
On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +0000, David Guo via NANOG wrote: Yes, every week
Proof
I manage three networks. All three have transit from Cogent. I get assaulted non-stop by Cogent sales reps. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lockhart" <simon@slimey.org> To: "David Guo" <david@xtom.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:13:37 PM Subject: SPAM: Re: Cogent emails We gave in and just bought a small amount of transit from them. The sales emails stopped. Seems to be about the only effective method. Simon On Mon Sep 14, 2020 at 05:07:28PM +0000, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
Yes, every week
Proof
The question is if they are back to contacting the names on whois or they magically found our emails "another way" and they have plausible deniability. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM David Guo <david@xtom.com> wrote:
Yes, every week
Proof
https://vip1.loli.net/2020/09/15/bq3lHGuvNRkW9YS.jpg
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+david=xtom.com@nanog.org> * On Behalf Of *Dovid Bender *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:46 AM *To:* NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Cogent emails
Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?
All I did was express interest a few years ago and ever since then they’ve called and emailed me pretty regularly. Just got one yesterday. I’m probably on the fourth sales guy now since I first asked. Ryan Wilkins
On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dupont@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this year).
i get 50 times as many emails bitching about cogent spam as i get cogent spam. and my spam filter is trained to take care of the latter. randy
My reply to Cogent sales reps is usually something along the lines of "We have a corporate policy of only taking connections from providers that can give us a full Internet connection." They get defensive when I point out that they have large holes in their IPv6 routing table, but it usually gets them to go away for a while. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Ryan Wilkins <ryan@deadfrog.net> wrote:
All I did was express interest a few years ago and ever since then they’ve called and emailed me pretty regularly. Just got one yesterday. I’m probably on the fourth sales guy now since I first asked.
Ryan Wilkins
On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dupont@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this year).
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:45:32PM -0400, Dovid Bender wrote:
Is anyone starting to get the "cogent emails" again?
Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to: nanog-spammers@firemountain.net will cause them to be compiled into a list. ---rsk
On 9/21/20 11:03 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Reminder: forwarding these sorts of things (with full headers please) to:
nanog-spammers@firemountain.net
will cause them to be compiled into a list.
Why not a nanog.org address? Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus something unofficial? -- Grant. . . . unix || die
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus something unofficial?
That's exactly right. Whether NANOG itself ever wants to do anything with the results is entirely up to them. ---rsk
geeks@nanog works just fine 😎 -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Sep 22, 2020, at 07:53, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus something unofficial?
That's exactly right. Whether NANOG itself ever wants to do anything with the results is entirely up to them.
---rsk
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 07:58:42AM -0500, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote:
geeks@nanog works just fine ????
Yes, it works just fine for *that* purpose. However, *this* has a different purpose: Shining a light on ambulance chasers - Noction https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-April/107054.html ---rsk
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