Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile? Thanks Lynn Bashaw Director, Network Engineering Yipes Enterprise Services 2000 S. Colorado Blvd. Denver, CO 80222
At this exact moment we bill by average, but we're considering a switch to 95%, though lately I've gotten tired of fighting with customers when they get a bandwidth bill, so we might just do away with measured bandwidth and go with capped across the board. -- Bruce Robertson, President/CEO +1-775-348-7299 Great Basin Internet Services, Inc. fax: +1-775-348-9412 http://www.greatbasin.net
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:44 am, Bruce Robertson wrote:
At this exact moment we bill by average, but we're considering a switch to 95%, though lately I've gotten tired of fighting with customers when they get a bandwidth bill, so we might just do away with measured bandwidth and go with capped across the board.
...and then when they hit their cap, they complain that their connection is "slow" and that you need to fix it. ;) -- Grant A. Kirkwood - grant(at)tnarg.org Fingerprint = D337 48C4 4D00 232D 3444 1D5D 27F6 055A BF0C 4AED
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Lynn Bashaw wrote: > Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average > utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile? Average is just a function of total and time, and time progresses linearly with time, so average x some $ figure is just the same as saying total x some other $ figure. So most people would just look at that as being billing based upon total traffic volume, which yes, there are folks who do. I don't know of any in the U.S., but it's very common overseas, particularly places which have satellite links in their upstream path. -Bill
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile?
We look at an mrtg graph and pick a nice spot on the graph that looks like it is pushing enough bandwidth. We call this the "eye-ball averaging" method. No complaints to date. -Jack
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 12:51:39PM -0600, Jack Bates wrote:
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile?
We look at an mrtg graph and pick a nice spot on the graph that looks like it is pushing enough bandwidth. We call this the "eye-ball averaging" method. No complaints to date.
I prefer to pick a random number, then consult my Magic 8-Ball with the question "Is this customer paying enough money?". If the answer is no, I raise their bill by 10Mbit and try again. Sometimes the billing department gets a little backed up when the results are hazy, but other than that it's a great system. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
I know that Peer 1 offers that. http://www.peer1.net. I've talked with Bonnie Poirier, and she's very helpful. They offer both average use, and 95th percentile. Gabriel Lynn Bashaw wrote:
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile?
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Lynn Bashaw Director, Network Engineering Yipes Enterprise Services 2000 S. Colorado Blvd. Denver, CO 80222
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participants (8)
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alex@yuriev.com
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Bill Woodcock
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Bruce Robertson
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Gabriel
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Grant A. Kirkwood
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Jack Bates
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Lynn Bashaw
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Richard A Steenbergen