Hi, So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
On 07/16/2014 04:05 AM, Abuse Contact wrote:
Hi, So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Just ask your hosting provider to announce it for you and route it from their border to your box? -- Brandon Martin
Wow -- be careful playing with public eBGP sessions unless you know what you're doing. It can affect the entire Internet. Since you're just connecting to a single upstream ISP, you wont qualify for a public AS number. So, you'll have to work with your upstream ISP to agree on a private AS number you can use. You will be setting up an eBGP session (which is a session between two different AS numbers, as opposed to iBGP, wherein the AS numbers are the same). As for running BGP on a dedicated server, it'll depend on the OS in use. Assuming Linux, take a look at Quagga, BIRD, and ExaBGP. http://www.nongnu.org/quagga/ http://bird.network.cz/ https://code.google.com/p/exabgp/ It may be a *lot* easier for you to just have your upstream ISP announce your IP space, and route it to your dedicated server, unless you need the ability to turn it off and on over time. Cheers, jof On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi, Yeah, I need to turn on and off overtime, but I'm getting my own ASN very soon so that shouldn't be a problem soon! :) but how would I go about turning off a location at a certain time? Thanks! On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
Wow -- be careful playing with public eBGP sessions unless you know what you're doing. It can affect the entire Internet.
Since you're just connecting to a single upstream ISP, you wont qualify for a public AS number. So, you'll have to work with your upstream ISP to agree on a private AS number you can use. You will be setting up an eBGP session (which is a session between two different AS numbers, as opposed to iBGP, wherein the AS numbers are the same).
As for running BGP on a dedicated server, it'll depend on the OS in use. Assuming Linux, take a look at Quagga, BIRD, and ExaBGP. http://www.nongnu.org/quagga/ http://bird.network.cz/ https://code.google.com/p/exabgp/
It may be a *lot* easier for you to just have your upstream ISP announce your IP space, and route it to your dedicated server, unless you need the ability to turn it off and on over time.
Cheers, jof
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
I believe you'll find that all of this gets a lot easier if you try to understand how layer 3 routing itself works instead of asking sparodic questions one at a time. I recommend picking up a layer 3 routing book for the platform of your choice and going through the basics. On 7/19/2014 午後 04:43, Abuse Contact wrote:
Hi, Yeah, I need to turn on and off overtime, but I'm getting my own ASN very soon so that shouldn't be a problem soon! :) but how would I go about turning off a location at a certain time?
Thanks!
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
Wow -- be careful playing with public eBGP sessions unless you know what you're doing. It can affect the entire Internet.
Since you're just connecting to a single upstream ISP, you wont qualify for a public AS number. So, you'll have to work with your upstream ISP to agree on a private AS number you can use. You will be setting up an eBGP session (which is a session between two different AS numbers, as opposed to iBGP, wherein the AS numbers are the same).
As for running BGP on a dedicated server, it'll depend on the OS in use. Assuming Linux, take a look at Quagga, BIRD, and ExaBGP. http://www.nongnu.org/quagga/ http://bird.network.cz/ https://code.google.com/p/exabgp/
It may be a *lot* easier for you to just have your upstream ISP announce your IP space, and route it to your dedicated server, unless you need the ability to turn it off and on over time.
Cheers, jof
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy, Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf. Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Proxying. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com
wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted. Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs. On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us <javascript:;>> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com <javascript:;> bill@herrin.us <javascript:;> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like conf t router bgp AS1337 neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass" address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....? On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Assuming this isn't some silly troll, you need to either hire someone with a bit more clue or see if your provider is willing to configure your router. It sounds like you have no idea how IP routing works. On Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Abuse Contact wrote:
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
AS13335 is Cloudflare. How does TATA relate? You have a deicated server connected to TATA and Cloudflare? I'm skeptical. You really ought to do some more reading, learning, and practicing before running public BGP. I would recommend reading this book cover-to-cover: http://www.bgpexpert.com/'BGP'-by-Iljitsch-van-Beijnum/ It's only ~250 small pages. To practice and experiment, emulate some example configurations with GNS3 and Dynamips, or some Linux VMs with Quagga or BIRD.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Oh no, I just used the first ASNs that came to mind :P On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
AS13335 is Cloudflare. How does TATA relate? You have a deicated server connected to TATA and Cloudflare? I'm skeptical.
You really ought to do some more reading, learning, and practicing before running public BGP.
I would recommend reading this book cover-to-cover: http://www.bgpexpert.com/'BGP'-by-Iljitsch-van-Beijnum/ It's only ~250 small pages. To practice and experiment, emulate some example configurations with GNS3 and Dynamips, or some Linux VMs with Quagga or BIRD.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com>
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from
many
source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com
wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is
BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" < stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote: > So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a > /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but > I am > clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. > I want > to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of
wrote: that, their
IPs,
> etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a > inner > routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea > how to > set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Fundamental routing training would greatly help you here. I would suggest looking for that. If you are not peering with TATA, then your routes would not go to TATA first. (unless the next-hop is indirect and that brings up other fundamental routing things that you should learn about) AS13335 is not TATA. So if this is what your provider gave you, one first assumes you¹d be directly connected to them (that¹s one of the rules in BGP¹s RFC for external connections).. If you have multiple providers, you may have multiple peers. Each one would give you information. But like others have stated, I would strongly suggest you stop your testing for the moment and either hire someone to help or take some time to learn the basics on there. Otherwise, successful or not, your testing will really have no meaning to you. Just my two cents. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM To: Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: BGP Session
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote: their IPs,
etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Yeah, that's probably the best idea in this situation. I've been really interested in BGP but didn't know where to start, I'll read all the books that you guys put up above and start reading them. Also, referring to what you said "If you are not peering with TATA, then your routes would not go to TATA first. (unless the next-hop is indirect and that brings up other fundamental routing things that you should learn about)" Yeah, I meant that if I was getting a Transit service from them. Like, if using a DC like Equinix, you have access to countless amounts of opportunities to use Transits from virtually any provider, if I were to contact TATA and ask for a transit, I'd set that up in BGP, but I'm confused on how. I'll look into Fundamental routing. Thanks! On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
Fundamental routing training would greatly help you here. I would suggest looking for that.
If you are not peering with TATA, then your routes would not go to TATA first. (unless the next-hop is indirect and that brings up other fundamental routing things that you should learn about)
AS13335 is not TATA. So if this is what your provider gave you, one first assumes you¹d be directly connected to them (that¹s one of the rules in BGP¹s RFC for external connections).. If you have multiple providers, you may have multiple peers. Each one would give you information.
But like others have stated, I would strongly suggest you stop your testing for the moment and either hire someone to help or take some time to learn the basics on there. Otherwise, successful or not, your testing will really have no meaning to you.
Just my two cents.
Scott
-----Original Message----- From: Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM To: Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: BGP Session
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com
wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote: > So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a > /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am > clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want > to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, > etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner > routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to > set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
When did the NANOG list become freeconsulting.org? Owen On Jul 19, 2014, at 10:12 , Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, we're using it for an anycasted node but like, I'm confused on certain parts like, just a really basic question. When doing things like
conf t router bgp AS1337
neighbor 208.54.128.0 remote-as AS13335 neighbor 208.54.128.0 description BGP with Upstream neighbor 208.54.128.0 password "lolpass"
address-family ipv4 no synchronization neighbor 208.54.128.0 activate neighbor 208.54.128.0 soft-reconfiguration inboung
I'm confused on when doing this, would I need to state like
First go to AS13335 then go to TATA then go to my server or would it just automatically do that or would my provider do that? I'm confused on that. how would I state multiple peers.....?
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
An Anycasting node. For example, as part of a reliable DNS service. A /24 is usually the smallest prefix length that is portably accepted.
Also, applications where connections need to appear to be coming from many source IPs.
On Saturday, July 19, 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Sounds like one of those sketchy 'triple-opt-in' mailing lists... :-) Or they're running 37 FTP's, 6 Ventrillos, 71 teleconferences, etc. Oh, and SSL. Can't forget about SSL. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:59 AM To: Abuse Contact Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: BGP Session A single linux box with a whole /24 on it? What sort of use case is that, BTW? On 19-Jul-2014 10:26 pm, "Abuse Contact" <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, the DC is going to be giving me a BGP session on their router so I can set it up, I'm not using a Linux server as a router.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Abuse Contact <stopabuseandreport@gmail.com> wrote:
So I just purchased a Dedicated server from this one company and I have a /24 IPv4 block that I bought from a company on WebHostingTalk, but I am clueless on how to setup the /24 IPv4 block using the BGP Session. I want to set it up to run through their network as if it was one of their IPs, etc. I keep seeing things like iBGP (which I think means like a inner routing BGP) and eBGP (what I'm talking about??) but I have no idea how to set those up or which one I would need.
Howdy,
Unless you have (1) a real router available, not a just a server and (2) an expert available to help you with your first BGP configuration I strongly recommend you simply ask your service provider to announce the /24 to the Internet on your behalf.
Server-based BGP software like Quagga for Linux is reasonably good but it should absolutely not be involved in your _first_ attempt to connect with the Internet's default-free zone. Simple mistakes with eBGP can cause tremendous damage to other folks on the Internet. Trial and error is simply not OK. If it isn't worth it to you to buy a BGP-capable router then you also aren't prepared to make the investment in learning it takes to use BGP without causing harm.
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
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