Anyone willing to speak forth and give notes of their experience in setting up a NAP. Questions we have in mind are: Go with a Digital GIGAswitch/ATM or FDDI? Or should we go for a GSR 12000? The very high traffic users will be put directly on ports on the GIGAswitch or GSR. The others will be sharing FDDI. thanks Vijay Gill |The (paying) customer is always right. wrath@cs.umbc.edu, vijay@umbc.edu | - Piercarlo Grandi http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~vijay | Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get These are my opinions only. | sucked into jet engines.
Anyone willing to speak forth and give notes of their experience in setting up a NAP.
Questions we have in mind are:
Go with a Digital GIGAswitch/ATM or FDDI? Or should we go for a GSR 12000?
The very high traffic users will be put directly on ports on the GIGAswitch or GSR. The others will be sharing FDDI.
thanks
I expect there will be several folks who will be at this NANOG who might be able to answer. Whether they are willing is another matter. At previous NANOGs there have been some discussions on exchange architectures and scalability tradeoffs. You might find some good stuff in the archives. -- --bill
The choice of hardware is really dependant on quite a bit. Obviously one needs a highly reliable infrastructure. Also one will want to choose something that has the ability to grow with the exchange points needs. Additionally, current high traffic exchange points are at least showing some of the faults in the hardware they are currently using. However, I think at least today, one could generalize, and come to the following conclusions. If you are looking to create an exchange point where peering is forced, (i.e. a central routing model), You could choose to use some high performance router. The problems one may run into here is port cost and administrative costs. Additionally, the current batch of super-high performance routers are fairly new, and one may end up spending alot of time fighting bugs. If you are going to go with the more common bridged type of exchange point, you have a fairly wide choice of hardware, including FDDI, Fast Ethernet, ATM, etc. Problems with all these technologies are well documented, and there are several exchange operators who are using at least one of these technologies, and would best have the detailed answers to your questions. However, it might be of relevence to note that the Internet 2 project has chosen ATM as the technology of choice for the MEGA and GIGA pops of the new network. With the detail of information one must provide to recieve federal funding, you might be able to dig up some good analysis from an Internet 2 submittal. Chris A. Icide At 10:55 AM 10/23/97 -0700, bmanning@ISI.EDU wrote:
Anyone willing to speak forth and give notes of their experience in setting up a NAP.
Questions we have in mind are:
Go with a Digital GIGAswitch/ATM or FDDI? Or should we go for a GSR 12000?
The very high traffic users will be put directly on ports on the GIGAswitch or GSR. The others will be sharing FDDI.
thanks
I expect there will be several folks who will be at this NANOG who might be able to answer. Whether they are willing is another matter. At previous NANOGs there have been some discussions on exchange architectures and scalability tradeoffs. You might find some good stuff in the archives.
-- --bill
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris A. Icide Nap.Net / Genuity, Inc. Sr. Network Engineer 4041 N. Central Ave. 602-207-6409 Phoenix, AZ 85012 - Notice: NVRAM invalid, possibly due to write erase. Press RETURN to get started! - PGP Keys located at pgpkeys.mit.edu or http://nap.net/~chris/keys.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Vijay Gill <wrath@cs.umbc.edu> wrote:
Anyone willing to speak forth and give notes of their experience in setting up a NAP.
Questions we have in mind are:
Go with a Digital GIGAswitch/ATM or FDDI? Or should we go for a GSR 12000?
The very high traffic users will be put directly on ports on the GIGAswitch or GSR. The others will be sharing FDDI.
If you have to ask this kind of question then I'd ask again if you really want to setup a NAP. Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
On Fri, Oct 24, 1997 at 10:41:11AM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote:
If you have to ask this kind of question then I'd ask again if you really want to setup a NAP.
I disagree. If a person thinks he knows everything about designing and implementing a NAP without input from those who will be connecting to it, I wouldn't want to connect there. Why not get input from others? Alec -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ |Alec Peterson - ahp@hilander.com | Erols Internet Services, INC. | |Network Engineer | Springfield, VA. | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:59:05 -0400 "Alec H. Peterson" <ahp@hilander.com> wrote:
I disagree. If a person thinks he knows everything about designing and implementing a NAP without input from those who will be connecting to it, I wouldn't want to connect there. Why not get input from others?
True, but surely there are basics that you would already have researched, btw http://engr.ans.net has some very intersting things on ATM NAP. Cheers, Neil -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Neil J. McRae wrote:
True, but surely there are basics that you would already have researched, btw http://engr.ans.net has some very intersting things on ATM NAP.
Already checked into that. Never hurts to get a wide spectrum of responses. For example, someone pointed out 3com switches, something that had never even crossed my cisco centric thought process. Reasons for asking also include the future path of a relatively untested box (GSR) vs a known factor (GIGAswitch). vijay
participants (5)
-
Alec H. Peterson
-
bmanning@ISI.EDU
-
Chris A. Icide
-
Neil J. McRae
-
Vijay Gill