I've been working with them (it's really the Hatteras Networks products) since before the acquisition. I don't have much to compare to in terms of experience with the competing products, but I can tell you we've been very happy with the equipment, and I've heard lots of horror stories from Zhone customers. Hatteras' support was also phenomenal. I haven't seen any change yet since the acquisition except we have a different sales guy. The biggest challenge is that when dealing with 3rd party (iLEC) copper pairs, you really don't know what you are going to get until you turn up the circuit. There can also be a lot of fingerpointing when things break because the circuits you buy from the iLEC are generally cheap and don't have very high requirements for when the techs test and accept the circuit. Hope that helps, -Scott -----Original Message----- From: Graham Wooden [mailto:graham@g-rock.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:40 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [OT] Overture's Ethernet over bonded Copper products HI operators, Been looking at Overture¹s ŒEthernet over Copper¹ product line; any you folks have any real world experience with them? Would love to hear off-line the good, bad, ugly stories ­ if you are willing to share. Much appreciated. -graham