Free gold from Paul Vixie? I don't think so.
Three days ago someone forged mail in my name, and again in the name of everyone mentioned anywhere in www.vix.com, to every member of the U.S. Senate and House, threatening to delete all their files and shut down all of their systems. It was crudely done, easily detected as a forgery, easily traced, and now the subject of interest for the FBI. Today someone forged spam in my name, to I-don't-know-yet how many users, offering to give away "FREE GOLD!!!" and giving my e-mail address and that of <scott@zorch.sf-bay.org>, an employee here and also a major spam fighter in his spare time. I've already received over a hundred complaints and e-mail bounces, and a few "Free gold? Sure, send some to me at <addr>." I can only infer from this that what we're doing is hurting the business of spam, and that they are worried about us. So I take it as highly encouraging and if I needed any excuse to redouble my efforts, this would be it. I've created a vacation message and a procmail script so the next ten thousand or so bounces and complaints will be handled automatically. I am also working with the relay sites used to forge and export this spam, to educate them about <URL:http://www.sendmail.org/antispam.html> and also about spam in general <URL:http://www.vix.com/spam/> and about my real time blackhole feed. Today I got calls from several folks who I've blackholed or suggested blackholing lately, each being a request for help and education.
Paul, Is there a mailing list other than NANOG that may be appropriate for updates on your mission? Perhaps there exists a spamhaters mail list? If not, I'd be happy to set one up to remove this traffic from NANOG. Or, perhaps you could, so as to prevent its being spammed. Please let me know if I can help in this way. -alan
Three days ago someone forged mail in my name, and again in the name of everyone mentioned anywhere in www.vix.com, to every member of the U.S. Senate and House, threatening to delete all their files and shut down all of their systems. It was crudely done, easily detected as a forgery, easily traced, and now the subject of interest for the FBI.
Today someone forged spam in my name, to I-don't-know-yet how many users, offering to give away "FREE GOLD!!!" and giving my e-mail address and that of <scott@zorch.sf-bay.org>, an employee here and also a major spam fighter in his spare time. I've already received over a hundred complaints and e-mail bounces, and a few "Free gold? Sure, send some to me at <addr>."
I can only infer from this that what we're doing is hurting the business of spam, and that they are worried about us. So I take it as highly encouraging and if I needed any excuse to redouble my efforts, this would be it. I've created a vacation message and a procmail script so the next ten thousand or so bounces and complaints will be handled automatically.
I am also working with the relay sites used to forge and export this spam, to educate them about <URL:http://www.sendmail.org/antispam.html> and also about spam in general <URL:http://www.vix.com/spam/> and about my real time blackhole feed. Today I got calls from several folks who I've blackholed or suggested blackholing lately, each being a request for help and education.
-- Alan Hannan Not Employed Networking, Ltd. email: alan@mindvision.com. phone: 402/488-0238
I'd like to second this idea for a 'spam haters' list for disussion on not only domains which are causing trouble as well as discussion on how to deal with it. Like Alan I'd be perfectly willing to host this list. On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Alan Hannan wrote:
Paul,
Is there a mailing list other than NANOG that may be appropriate for updates on your mission?
Perhaps there exists a spamhaters mail list?
If not, I'd be happy to set one up to remove this traffic from NANOG. Or, perhaps you could, so as to prevent its being spammed.
Please let me know if I can help in this way.
-alan
[-] Brett L. Hawn (blh @ nol dot net) [-] [-] Networks On-Line - Houston, Texas [-] [-] 713-467-7100 [-]
I'd like to second this idea for a 'spam haters' list for disussion on not only domains which are causing trouble as well as discussion on how to deal with it. Like Alan I'd be perfectly willing to host this list.
spam-request@zorch.sf-bay.org is one such. There are some others, which you can learn about via http://www.vix.com/spam/.
Alan, I sent my note to NANOG because of the heavy discussion which occurred there last week and also because a number of NANOG members are going to get complaints from their users about "my" spam. So while I appreciate your concern, it's misplaced. Paul PS. Thanks for including my entire previous note, I'm sure *someone* who deleted it without reading it the first time, read it the second time.
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Paul A Vixie