Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute. How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed. I'd pony up some $$$ to virtually attend it if it were reliable. Seems a lot less reliable this time around. FWIW, if the only video shot is a long shot of a talking head wireless discussion, save the bandwidth and only stream the audio, or cut to the slides if there are some. Burning 80k to see a pixelated animation doesn't do anyone any good. Eric ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann@cctec.com Van Wert OH 45801 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 603 825 5893 "The fact that there are actually ways of knowing and characterizing the extent of one’s ignorance, while still remaining ignorant, may ultimately be more interesting and useful to people than Yarkovsky" -- Jon Giorgini of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory
How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed.
Methinkg Akamai might be a candidate to offer this service to nanog in the future perhaps? :) Avi? FWIW the stream is working fine for me except they're not showing the slides... -Scott
I'm not sure whom to contact, but if the person responsible for the webcasts want's to contact me off list, I can offer up some idea's. (I've got some experience pushing webcast's to 2000+) Matt On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:06 -0500 "Eric Germann" <ekgermann@cctec.com> wrote:
Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute.
How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed.
I'd pony up some $$$ to virtually attend it if it were reliable. Seems a lot less reliable this time around.
FWIW, if the only video shot is a long shot of a talking head wireless discussion, save the bandwidth and only stream the audio, or cut to the slides if there are some. Burning 80k to see a pixelated animation doesn't do anyone any good.
Eric
===================================================================== ===== Eric Germann CCTec ekgermann@cctec.com Van Wert OH 45801 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 Fax: 603 825 5893
"The fact that there are actually ways of knowing and characterizing the extent of onemore interesting and useful to people than Yarkovsky"
-- Jon Giorgini of NASA
At 11:51 AM 2/11/2003, Eric Germann wrote:
Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute.
How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed.
Raises hand as someone who'd be willing to pay a virtual attendance fee.
I'd pony up some $$$ to virtually attend it if it were reliable. Seems a lot less reliable this time around.
I've tried several times to suggest a virtual attendance fee for IETF meetings as well. There seems to be significant resistance to the concept in that group, perhaps NANOG will be more receptive? For the fee, I'd expect some sort of a back-channel as well (IRC channel, email address or something so that folks who're attending virtually can ask questions of the presenter).
Eric, -- "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." --Albert Einstein (1879-1955) On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Eric Germann wrote:
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:06 -0500 From: Eric Germann <ekgermann@cctec.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Streaming dead again.
Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute.
I start seeing packet loss one hop before that 10. g7.ba21.b002281-1.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (around 10%) Could somebody from Cogent take look to see what is going on ? Thanks German
How many folks are watching the multicast stream vs the unicast stream? Those watching the multicast stream really won't notice issues due to number of viewers. Perhaps the continuing degradation of the unicast stream is a bit of social engineering to get folks to move to multicast? If so, good for merit!
As of 9:00 AM EST, I am not seeing any of the multicast groups here - more precisely, I can see rtcp traffic from other group members, but not the broadcasts themselves. Regards Marshall Eubanks T.M. Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc. 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme@multicasttech.com http://www.multicasttech.com Test your network for multicast : http://www.multicasttech.com/mt/ Status of Multicast on the Web : http://www.multicasttech.com/status/index.html
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