I too am having increasing difficulty getting address from Internic without tons of justification. One small point I would like to make: There is an implicit assumption here that the addresses requested are for immediate use on the Internet. Many State agencies here are moving to TCP/IP based networks. This is as much for interconnectivity among ourselves as anything else. They may initially not even connect to other State agencies, let alone the Internet. That does not reduce their need to have coordinated addresses. The last thing they need to do is deploy a network with bogus addresses and then have to change the addresses when they interconnect with others/Internet. They could request small blocks of "C" themselves, but it makes more sense to me to use sub-block of CIDRs that I manage when they have intent of eventually attaching to the Internet thru us. Jerry Marsh | State of Washington - DIS/TSD - MS 2450 jerrym@dis.wa.gov | Olympia, Wa 98504-2450 voice: 360-902-3311