Sure thing :) Btw my point was to avoid the potential impression that origin validation brings any real security to bgp. Cheers, R. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:12 PM John Kristoff <jtk@depaul.edu> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:01:15 +0000 Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:

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I would not say that either S-BGP nor so-BGP were precursors to BGP origin validation ( I am assuming this is what you are referring to as "system we have today").

I would consider origin validation as just one application of the system we have today. Does that sound better?

John