for some reason the list wasn't cc'd on this informative reply to my earlier rant. in case the sender wanted to remain anonymous, i'm stripping headers: ------- Forwarded Message From: ... To: "Paul Vixie" <paul@vix.com> Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:12:22 -0500

Without that argument, there's a clear path to "since your customers have no choice, you are not allowed to filter content." While this probably applies to DSL since it's "like telco" and there's already legislation about what telcos can't filter because of their old "natural monopoly" status,

Paul, I don't think it's been tested in the courts, but I think you're sorely mistaken there as far as ISPs(!; unregulated side) operated by telco's being able to filter things. The Telco ISPs typically are on the unregulated side, including my employer ... The ILEC typically doesn't operate any public IP devices. Sure, they could filter, but presently it just looks like one ATM cell like the next ATM cell. And, beyond that, nobody has said anything against ILECs offering network based filtering services (which would be initiated per customer's request on devices like the Shasta). Bottm line is, you presume that the RBOC's ISPs are all regulated, which they're not. They're in a huge gray zone to be exact. Anyways, ... ------- End of Forwarded Message