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-----Original Message----- From: Rick Ernst [mailto:erond@legendz.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:33 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

We are sending out feelers for adding an additional DS-3, or possibly frac OC-3. One of the responses came back with "we won't be competive with <provider> because they don't have their own backbone.

Is there a cross-reference for provider vs network backbone, or is

I have a Level-3 OC-3 in Miami. So far they have proved to be more stable than my other 2 upstreams. Never had a problem with their helpdesk either! Regards, ---------------------------------------------- Joel Perez <jperez@ntera.net> | IP Engineer http://www.ntera.net/ | Ntera 305.914.3412 this

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just something that we have to ask each provider for? I "assume" that UU, Sprint, and AT&T are self-owned backbones, but others... ?

One of the providers we are looking at is Level-3. Any comments good/bad on reliability and clue? We already have UU, Sprint, and AT&T. I also realize that the "they suck less" list changes continuously... :)

Thanks, Rick