the gauntlet is thrown
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
This is a return volly. The service in this match was three weeks ago. --bill
Scott Bradner writes:
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
* bmanning@karoshi.com (bmanning@karoshi.com) [Fri 03 Oct 2003, 16:47 CEST]:
This is a return volly. The service in this match was three weeks ago.
So the question is now, who has who by the jugulars in this threesome between ICANN, VeriSign and the Internet technical community? Or worded even more clearly, who controls/owns who - VeriSign ICANN and the Internet, or we ICANN and therefore VeriSign enough to not matter? -- Niels.
Scott Bradner writes:
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
* bmanning@karoshi.com (bmanning@karoshi.com) [Fri 03 Oct 2003, 16:47 CEST]:
This is a return volly. The service in this match was three weeks ago.
So the question is now, who has who by the jugulars in this threesome between ICANN, VeriSign and the Internet technical community? Or worded even more clearly, who controls/owns who - VeriSign ICANN and the Internet, or we ICANN and therefore VeriSign enough to not matter?
-- Niels.
as I understand it: the "internet technical community" has no part in this matter. (*) there are a series of interlocking MOUs/CRADAs/Contracts between ICANN/USDOC/Verisign that cover a range of topics, some of which include the on-going care/feeding of .com and .net. (*) we get to watch this match from the sidelines. (*) as a community (technical and otherwise) we do get to "vote" with our editors or in conjuntion w/ our vendors. with enough disgust/distaste it is possible either lie to ones self and ones customers/clients about what has been done (aka the BIND patch), to abandon .com/.net (easier said than done), let mob-rule anoint others to be the authoritative source for .com/.net. -or- accept the changes and get on w/ life. pick one of the four. --bill
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 bmanning@karoshi.com wrote:
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
This is a return volly. The service in this match was three weeks ago.
While any reasonable person would know what ICANN asked Verisign to do, any prediction whether Verisign will adopt a passive-agressive posture and inteprete the letter in a way to cause maximum disruption to all users of the Internet and then blame ICANN? ICANN told us to roll back the .COM/.NET zones to September 15 and stop making changes; so we deleted all domain names registered after September 15 and undid all changes.
In <Pine.GSO.4.44.0310031146010.18172-100000@clifden.donelan.com> Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> writes:
While any reasonable person would know what ICANN asked Verisign to do, any prediction whether Verisign will adopt a passive-agressive posture and inteprete the letter in a way to cause maximum disruption to all users of the Internet and then blame ICANN?
ICANN told us to roll back the .COM/.NET zones to September 15 and stop making changes; so we deleted all domain names registered after September 15 and undid all changes.
Given that ICANN is using the clauses in their contract with VeriSlime to demand the removal of the wildcards, I suspect that any such move by VeriSlime would trigger Bad Legal Things for VeriSlime. -wayne
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
ICANN told us to roll back the .COM/.NET zones to September 15 and stop making changes; so we deleted all domain names registered after September 15 and undid all changes.
Given that ICANN is using the clauses in their contract with VeriSlime to demand the removal of the wildcards, I suspect that any such move by VeriSlime would trigger Bad Legal Things for VeriSlime.
VeriSlime might do lots of bad things.... But, I doubt it would take all that long for armed federal knuckledraggers with a federal court order to show up at their door, if push comes to shove.... ICANN/DOC may well have been to see His Honor already in an ex-parte hearing. (We would not even need Tom Ridge; just tell Ashcroft there are pictures of nekked wimmen involved and he'll lead the charge.) -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:48:42AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 bmanning@karoshi.com wrote:
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-lewis-03oct03.htm
This is a return volly. The service in this match was three weeks ago.
While any reasonable person would know what ICANN asked Verisign to do, any prediction whether Verisign will adopt a passive-agressive posture and inteprete the letter in a way to cause maximum disruption to all users of the Internet and then blame ICANN?
ICANN told us to roll back the .COM/.NET zones to September 15 and stop making changes; so we deleted all domain names registered after September 15 and undid all changes.
Doubtful...they would have to refund money to those who registered or renewed after September 15th...that would mean having to open their wallets... ;-) Ido -- =========================================================================== | Ido Dubrawsky, CISSP E-mail: idubraws@cisco.com | | | Network Security Architect :|: :|: | VSEC Technical Marketing, SAFE Architecture Team :|||: :|||: | Cisco Systems, Inc. .:|||||||:..:|||||||:. | Silver Spring, MD. 20902 ===========================================================================
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