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FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
Its only on SORBS (of the major ones) as far as I can tell. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william@elan.net
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 16:49 -0500, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
I only see it on one listing and that is for dnsbl.sorbs.net. http://www.completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=198.108.1.26 According to sorbs, the record was created Jul-26 02:31:29 2005 and spamtrap trigger email was... Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by desperado.sorbs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF0111428 for <[email]>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:55:42 +1000 (EST) -Jim P.
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:00 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 16:49 -0500, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
I only see it on one listing and that is for dnsbl.sorbs.net.
http://www.completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=198.108.1.26
According to sorbs, the record was created Jul-26 02:31:29 2005 and spamtrap trigger email was...
Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by desperado.sorbs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF0111428 for <[email]>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:55:42 +1000 (EST)
-Jim P.
And of course for my well-intended effort I get the following terse auto-reply declaring that I am a low life with bad intentions and a bad image. Wait a minute, I don't have free-email from Yahoo!, I pay for it. ;-) -Jim P. On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:51 -0400, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
Hi. This is the TMDA program at adns.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. This is probably because this is an internal account that no one is supposed to be sending mail to. If you are sending it mail, you are probably a low-life, bottom feeding scum sucking spammer who will burn in hell. NO addresses at this domain EVER want to hear from you.
If your account is at YAHOO.COM or one of the other "free" services, we are rejecting your mail because most all of the people using these services are spammers or most spammers forge non-existent addresses with these services as their return address. If you have one of these accounts, you should realize that a large percentage of the internet will reject your mail because free services attract low-lifes that usually have bad intentions and ISP engineers know this and reject such mail. You should upgrade your image on the internet by paying for a real e-mail account. Sorry, but thats just reality.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 06:10:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:00 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 16:49 -0500, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
I only see it on one listing and that is for dnsbl.sorbs.net.
http://www.completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=198.108.1.26
According to sorbs, the record was created Jul-26 02:31:29 2005 and spamtrap trigger email was...
Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by desperado.sorbs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF0111428 for <[email]>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:55:42 +1000 (EST)
-Jim P.
And of course for my well-intended effort I get the following terse auto-reply declaring that I am a low life with bad intentions and a bad image. Wait a minute, I don't have free-email from Yahoo!, I pay for it. ;-)
-Jim P.
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:51 -0400, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
Hi. This is the TMDA program at adns.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. This is probably because this is an internal account that no one is supposed to be sending mail to. If you are sending it mail, you are probably a low-life, bottom feeding scum sucking spammer who will burn in hell. NO addresses at this domain EVER want to hear from you.
If your account is at YAHOO.COM or one of the other "free" services, we are rejecting your mail because most all of the people using these services are spammers or most spammers forge non-existent addresses with these services as their return address. If you have one of these accounts, you should realize that a large percentage of the internet will reject your mail because free services attract low-lifes that usually have bad intentions and ISP engineers know this and reject such mail. You should upgrade your image on the internet by paying for a real e-mail account. Sorry, but thats just reality.
Well, I guess he'll never see messages from you, and never realize that he is wishing you to be damned to hell. Who loses more? -- Joe Yao ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is not an official statement of OSIS Center policies.
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:52 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:51 -0400, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
Hi. This is the TMDA program at adns.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. This is probably because this is an internal account that no one is supposed to be sending mail to. If you are sending it mail, you are probably a low-life, bottom feeding scum sucking spammer who will burn in hell. NO addresses at this domain EVER want to hear from you.
If your account is at YAHOO.COM or one of the other "free" services, we are rejecting your mail because most all of the people using these services are spammers or most spammers forge non-existent addresses with these services as their return address. If you have one of these accounts, you should realize that a large percentage of the internet will reject your mail because free services attract low-lifes that usually have bad intentions and ISP engineers know this and reject such mail. You should upgrade your image on the internet by paying for a real e-mail account. Sorry, but thats just reality.
Well, I guess he'll never see messages from you, and never realize that he is wishing you to be damned to hell. Who loses more?
Yahoo does. ;-) I personally think his message is sullying them more than me. -Jim P. Classic Quote #34179: (http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/34179.html) "A closed mind is a good thing to lose."
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
reason #6572 not to use rbl's... or to atleast understand what your rbl's are putting on their lists any why :) (or to whitelist things you care to accept emails from)
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
reason #6572 not to use rbl's... or to atleast understand what your rbl's are putting on their lists any why :)
The latter. DNSBLs are valuable tools, but using any large list as a one-step block can be quite problematic. Many use multiple return codes, some of which could qualify as one-step blocking, such as open relay detection, but some of which should be used only for weighting. An effective modern spam blocking system uses many layers of screening with different scope for each layer. Yes, it's problematic that people don't follow these rules of thumb, but DNSBLs are a very small part of the problem these days -- unscalable C/R tends to get much worse. (Use SPAM-L if you'd like to ask people for statistical samples.) -- -- Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org> <tv@pobox.com> <todd@vierling.name>
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, John Palmer wrote:
FYI: The IP address of the mail server that sends out NANOG list messages (198.108.1.26) is once again on most of the major RBLs.
Define most and major please. I don't see it listed anywhere. Maybe it's in the major DNSBLS living in an alternate root zone I don't query. RBL is, AFAIK, a MAPS trademark...so there's only one RBL (or set of them run by MAPS). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
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