Yup, I knew that, sorry. Ryan Rawdon wrote:
You may want to try the mailop mailing list, which was created to try and shift mail operations traffic volume from NANOG: http://www.mailop.org/
Good luck with your issue, Ryan
John Martinez wrote:
Is anyone else seeing a high rejection rate from charter.net email clients?
Anybody actually on that list? Most of the serious mailops work is on some other, entirely different lists. And why do people have to think nanog is solely for packet pushing related ops? Email is operational, and its often the first ops failure that your users notice, right after the ones that go "I cant get to my pr0n". On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:23 AM, John Martinez <jmartinez@zero11.com> wrote:
Yup, I knew that, sorry.
Ryan Rawdon wrote:
You may want to try the mailop mailing list, which was created to try and shift mail operations traffic volume from NANOG: http://www.mailop.org/
Good luck with your issue, Ryan
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Anybody actually on that list? Most of the serious mailops work is on some other, entirely different lists.
I followed up to John's message there. We're currently seeing intermittent timeouts when connecting TCP/25 on ib1.charter.net as well as timeouts after the TCP session is established. Thanks, -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Direct: 541-955-6903 | Fax: 541-471-0821
Meta: I'm one of the mailop list admins... On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 07:50 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Anybody actually on that list? Most of the serious mailops work is on some other, entirely different lists.
There are almost 400 on the list now, and it grows with every single mention here and on other lists. The reason Andy created it was in response to the plethora of "any ISP XYZ mail admins contact me off list" messages NANOG used to see, along with several threads which some posters saw as non-operational. I'd be very pleased to know about the other lists, especially as in previous years I've always come up against brick walls - "you're not big enough, go away" or "we don't know you, go away". Not especially helpful, especially as the latter case would be resolved by allowing more open subscription.
And why do people have to think nanog is solely for packet pushing related ops? Email is operational, and its often the first ops failure that your users notice, right after the ones that go "I cant get to my pr0n".
Email is operational, yes. But there are many on NANOG who feel that it isn't, judging by the reaction in the past to long-running threads about it. Graeme
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Graeme Fowler <graeme@graemef.net> wrote:
I'd be very pleased to know about the other lists, especially as in previous years I've always come up against brick walls - "you're not big enough, go away" or "we don't know you, go away". Not especially helpful, especially as the latter case would be resolved by allowing more open subscription.
Yes, that is a problem with vetted communities at some stage or the other of their vetting career. Try asking again, depending on where you asked you might get a different answer now.
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