Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I received it. On AT&T, but not on AT&T Wifi Calling — I got it about :30 EDT, when I went outside within range of a 4G signal. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:22 AM Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
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I got it on a Verizon Android. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Here in Santa Fe on Android / TMO no message was received. On 10/03/2018 01:23 PM, Milt Aitken wrote:
I got it on a Verizon Android.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
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Confirmed Verizon - Android - Los Angeles. -- Ryan Hamel Network Engineer ryan.hamel@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372 x201 QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Milt Aitken Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:24 PM To: 'Andy Ringsmuth' <andy@andyring.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test I got it on a Verizon Android. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Andy, Received on iPhone 7/iOS 12 on Sprint in SE Michigan.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Asked co-workers that are on att and about half say they didn't get it. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:26 Milt Aitken <milt@net2atlanta.com> wrote:
I got it on a Verizon Android.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd. Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :) In rural America where cell coverage may not exist but the customer may have PTMP wireless internet and is using a microcell and/or wifi calling over the internet, if they dont get the alert, that could be catastrophic. Something along the lines of the Santa Rosa, CA fires catastrophic. I wonder if that is the case. -Mike
On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:28, Chaim Rieger <chaim.rieger@gmail.com> wrote:
Asked co-workers that are on att and about half say they didn't get it.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:26 Milt Aitken <milt@net2atlanta.com> wrote: I got it on a Verizon Android.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd.
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
Very possible, I have two phones on a AT&T micro-cells and both missed it. -Nathan
Anecdotally, we had staff feeding off of both AT&T and VZW IP-based metrocells get the alert message. Ray On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 12:53:57PM -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com wrote:
Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd.
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
In rural America where cell coverage may not exist but the customer may have PTMP wireless internet and is using a microcell and/or wifi calling over the internet, if they dont get the alert, that could be catastrophic. Something along the lines of the Santa Rosa, CA fires catastrophic.
I wonder if that is the case.
-Mike
I got it on ATT IPhone I have and a Verizon Pixel as well. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:38 PM Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson@esri.com> wrote:
Anecdotally, we had staff feeding off of both AT&T and VZW IP-based metrocells get the alert message.
Ray
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 12:53:57PM -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com wrote:
Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd.
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
In rural America where cell coverage may not exist but the customer may have PTMP wireless internet and is using a microcell and/or wifi calling over the internet, if they dont get the alert, that could be catastrophic. Something along the lines of the Santa Rosa, CA fires catastrophic.
I wonder if that is the case.
-Mike
My son who has a Canadian line got it while in the Washington state area. Adrian On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:44 PM Stan Barber <sob@academ.com> wrote:
I got it on ATT IPhone I have and a Verizon Pixel as well.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:38 PM Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson@esri.com> wrote:
Anecdotally, we had staff feeding off of both AT&T and VZW IP-based metrocells get the alert message.
Ray
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 12:53:57PM -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com wrote:
Iphone, vzw, silicon valley, rcvd.
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
In rural America where cell coverage may not exist but the customer may have PTMP wireless internet and is using a microcell and/or wifi calling over the internet, if they dont get the alert, that could be catastrophic. Something along the lines of the Santa Rosa, CA fires catastrophic.
I wonder if that is the case.
-Mike
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 12:53:57 -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com said:
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
Oddball corner case - I'm at home taking a sick day, and my Moto X4 on Project Fi *did* receive the alert text right at 2:18 but did *not* trigger the amazingly loud and annoying alert tone. Phone says it's set for wifi calling, but has a tower in sight too.
i got it iPhone X on Xfinity Mobile On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 12:53:57 -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com said:
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
Oddball corner case - I'm at home taking a sick day, and my Moto X4 on Project Fi *did* receive the alert text right at 2:18 but did *not* trigger the amazingly loud and annoying alert tone. Phone says it's set for wifi calling, but has a tower in sight too.
received 11:18am PDT T-Mobile SF bay area. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:32 PM james jones <james.voip@gmail.com> wrote:
i got it iPhone X on Xfinity Mobile
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 12:53:57 -0700, mike.lyon@gmail.com said:
Interesting question though... I wonder if people on micro-cells and/or wifi calling don’t get the alerts. That would be extremely dumb and irresponsible of the cell phone carriers, so its likely the case :)
Oddball corner case - I'm at home taking a sick day, and my Moto X4 on Project Fi *did* receive the alert text right at 2:18 but did *not* trigger the amazingly loud and annoying alert tone. Phone says it's set for wifi calling, but has a tower in sight too.
We received it on T-Mobile and MetroPCS as well. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
We received it using the following platforms in Louisiana (Baton Rouge / New Orleans areas): AT&T (including Cricket) and Sprint iPhone and Android devices ~1:18 PM CDT -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+gary=lsu.edu@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Kenny Taylor Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:24 PM To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test We received it on T-Mobile and MetroPCS as well. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
ATT Android worked in Texas. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 2:31 PM Kenny Taylor <kenny.taylor@kccd.edu> wrote:
We received it on T-Mobile and MetroPCS as well.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Not received here but the BBC did apparently... https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45730367 -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 5:17 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Received at roughly 12:15 Pacific time, AT&T / IOS / Berkeley CA. -Bill BAE Systems will collect and process information about you that may be subject to data protection laws. For more information about how we use and disclose your personal information, how we protect your information, our legal basis to use your information, your rights and who you can contact, please refer to the relevant sections of our Privacy note at www.baesystems.com/en/cybersecurity/privacy <http://www.baesystems.com/en/cybersecurity/privacy> Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message should be regarded as confidential. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and destroy it immediately. Statements of intent shall only become binding when confirmed in hard copy by an authorised signatory. The contents of this email may relate to dealings with other companies under the control of BAE Systems PLC, details of which can be found at http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/index.htm.
Got it on both AT&T and Verizon iPhones in New England. Sincerely, Paul -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+paul.fernandes=dot.gov@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Kenny Taylor Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 3:24 PM To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test We received it on T-Mobile and MetroPCS as well. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I did not receive on my iPhone or Apple Watch (LTE) either. Both are T-Mobile and I'm in Oakland, CA. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:21 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
-- -- Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>) 925-884-3728 robbie.io
I did receive the alert on samsung devices: note 8 (tmobile), note 3 (no sim card/no service), and galaxy s6 (verizon) ~12:18 MDT (GMT-6) On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 13:55, Robbie Trencheny <me@robbiet.us> wrote:
I did not receive on my iPhone or Apple Watch (LTE) either. Both are T-Mobile and I'm in Oakland, CA.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:21 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
-- -- Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>) 925-884-3728 robbie.io
Received on Android on Sprint here in Colorado Geoff Mulligan CTO IIoT @ Jabil On 10/03/2018 01:23 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
I did not receive on my iPhone or Apple Watch (LTE) either. Both are T-Mobile and I'm in Oakland, CA.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:21 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com <mailto:andy@andyring.com>> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com <mailto:andy@andyring.com>
-- -- Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>) 925-884-3728 robbie.io <http://robbie.io>
I have a Verizon iPhone 7 and did not receive the alert. I did get it on a T-Mobile Pixel 2 though. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 14:23 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Yes, I received an alert on AT&T, iPhone X. Chris Cummings | Network Engineer Coeur Mining, Inc.| 104 S. Michigan Ave. Suite 900 | Chicago, IL 60603 t: 312.489.5852 | m: 773.294.6496 | ccummings@coeur.com NYSE: CDE | www.coeur.com Notice of Confidentiality: The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for addressee. This transmission is sent in trust, for the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or phone, and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 1:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.fema.gov%2femergency-alert-test&c=E,1,fr72hHe6gedphTpcUqBwvpTK0WFmRjf7FqlICQnIEFygbifiMG8spgvX2tJfj2gVu_Q8AYt5R6lOtqjxEEMXT5lY17sbIBJWi2Q0YGTIM8k4qqc,&typo=1 "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
IPhone on vzw here. Received On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:23 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Google Pixel2XL on VZW. Didn't receive anything Kevin On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 13:34 Chaim Rieger <chaim.rieger@gmail.com> wrote:
IPhone on vzw here. Received
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:23 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I cannot speak for AT&T, but my T-Mobile iPhones did not receive them either. I was told by support that if you enabled WiFi-calling, you may not receive the alert. If this is true, it seems to be a safety issue as WiFi calling was enabled by default.
On Oct 3, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Kevin Miller <kmiller@vantage.com> wrote:
I cannot speak for AT&T, but my T-Mobile iPhones did not receive them either. I was told by support that if you enabled WiFi-calling, you may not receive the alert. If this is true, it seems to be a safety issue as WiFi calling was enabled by default.
Interesting. That seems to be a gigantic hole in this entire process. I do have my iPhone set to WiFi Calling as AT&T’s signal has trouble reaching inside our building very well. FEMA also notes: A dedicated mailbox has been created for all questions relating to the IPAWS National Test. Please e-mail us at FEMA-National-Test@fema.dhs.gov. I e-mailed them with my results as well. Might be worth considering sending a report to that address yourself if you didn’t receive it. If our friend Kim lobs a rocket this way for some reason, I’d kinda like to know about it before the sky turns orange. :-) ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I work underground so I'm in airplane mode with WiFi calling enabled. Nothing on Verizon Android.
Hi, Andy. I don't have a helpful answer for you, because I'm at the NANOG meeting in Canada right now and as far as I could tell none of the attendees' phones alerted. But I am curious if perhaps your office has a micro-cell for AT&T, or something like that, which might have caused different behavior versus the public tower? Cheers, -Benson On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 12:22 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
my entire bus in san francisco got it. the expressions were priceless. t-mobile sent it earlier than other carriers -- i got it at x:18 On 10/3/18 11:52 AM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I got 1:19 and 1:21 (att then siruis) -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Can we stop spamming this list? I don’t care if you received the alert or not. Contact the FCC or the whitehouse. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Kain, Rebecca (.) Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:33 AM To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test I got 1:19 and 1:21 (att then siruis) -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
+1 Dennis S
On Oct 3, 2018, at 4:25 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <chris@scsalaska.net> wrote:
Can we stop spamming this list?
I don’t care if you received the alert or not. Contact the FCC or the whitehouse.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Kain, Rebecca (.) Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:33 AM To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
I got 1:19 and 1:21 (att then siruis)
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
VZW iPhone - received around 2.20pm EST. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:23 PM Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
VZW and Fi phones both had positive activation. Local small town Radio Station also had positive EAS activation in California. No Weather Radio Activation. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com
On Oct 3, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Awesome, I'm looking forward to hearing about all the locations a nationwide test was and was not received in. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:23 PM Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Weirdly, I received 3. One of them is both French/English. More weirdly i am in the air, on the way from Nanog Vancouver to Denver. We were still in Canada airspace, and my AT&T phone showed clearly “no service”. The phone was NOT on wi-fi. Screen captures if anyone wants.
On Oct 3, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
I received it on my iPhone XS Max running iOS 12.0 with AT&T, wifi calling off... ---- Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577 OTA Management LLC | Phone: 914-460-4039 -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:21 PM Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today?
AT&T Android in Virginia. I received it. The Washington Post is reporting that, "A number of iPhone users on AT&T’s network did not receive the notification until they had rebooted their smartphones." Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Alert received on Sprint in the Indianapolis area. I was on a phone call at the time [note that my handset doesn't do VoLTE - not sure if any Sprint handsets will at this time], and the alert was deferred until the call was terminated at approximately 14:30 EDT but was displayed immediately once that happened. -- Brandon Martin
I got it, but not until 14.34. For a system that's supposed to be able to warn people of incoming nuclear attack, that seems unacceptably slow. Ar Mer, 3 Hyd 2018 am 14:52 Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> ysgrifennodd:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:52, Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
Got it on an iPhone using Project Fi at 2:18 on the dot in southern MA. BTW the list member who was complaining about spamming the list - can I suggest you investigate procmail to solve your perceived problem on topics you are not interested in ? f
My wife and I, both on AT&T iPhones in the greater Cleveland area, received nothing. A co-worker of mine in Virginia got an alert, another in Texas did not. I believe the co-workers are both on AT&T. I can't speak for the co-workers, but my wife and I do not have wifi calling enabled. Dan On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT.
I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT.
Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted.
FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test
"Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once."
My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test.
---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
Since I know network engineers are geeks, and can't stop themselves from looking... On your iPhone (and android, and likely other cell phone OS), there are detailed diagnostics logs. On your iPhone, look under Settings->Privacy->Analytics->Analytics Data->awdd-<date ...> "awdd" means Apple Wireless Diagnostic Data. In my iOS awdd file for October 3,there was something like this: metriclogs { triggerTime: 1538590702067 triggerId: 524356 profileId: 174 commCenterGSMCellBroadcastEvent { timestamp: 1538590702066 message_id: 4370 message_code: 0 update_number: 0 emergency_user_alert: false } } The trigger time is local time in milliseconds. That means my phone got the cell broadcast at Wed Oct 03 2018 14:18:22, and displayed/alerted on the phone 1 millisecond later. Its usually a big file, so you'll need to scroll a long way. The entries are in triggerTime order, which is the date/time, will help narrow down where in the file. That is the diagnostic data about the WEA Presidential Alert cell broadcast message. The message_id 4370 is the GSM code for CMAS Alert type Presidential. An Amber alert is code 4379 and other codes exist for other messages. If you didn't get an alert, you can look in the diagnostic file around that time for other things which might have prevented receiving an alert, e.g. no receiption, voice call in progress, roaming on carrier without WEA, etc. In theory, Apple (iOS) and Alphabet (Android), and other manufacturers, which collect diagnostic data analytics on handsets could create a nationwide report how well WEA performed based on actual data instead of anedoctal reports.
Just to try to squeeze something worthwhile out of these reports... I wonder, if there were a real alert, what the odds are that one wouldn't hear about it in 1 minute, 5 minutes, etc even if they didn't personally get it. Obviously edge cases are possible, you were deep in a cave with your soccer team, but there must be mathematical modeling of that sort of information dispersion. It would have to account for other possible channels, word of mouth, facebook, twitter, &c posts or really any informatonal source you were on on the internet (e.g., news sites), TV, radio, people screaming in the streets, etc. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
I wonder, if there were a real alert, what the odds are that one wouldn't hear about it in 1 minute, 5 minutes, etc even if they didn't personally get it.
Obviously edge cases are possible, you were deep in a cave with your soccer team, but there must be mathematical modeling of that sort of information dispersion.
It would have to account for other possible channels, word of mouth, facebook, twitter, &c posts or really any informatonal source you were on on the internet (e.g., news sites), TV, radio, people screaming in the streets, etc.
You could do this, in principle, but you’d need a whole bunch of assumptions. What you want is a big graph of all people with weighted edges. The weights are the effective bitrates, or the chance per unit time that a message is sent and received along the edge (that’s going to mean guessing at some plausible numbers for each medium). We don’t have such a giant graph so we’d have to construct it and claim that for these purposes it has the right properties and represents the real world. You do this by saying, for each person, make a “word of mouth” edge to another randomly chosen person with a some probability. And so on. There’s more guessing here about those probabilities, but this has been studied quite a bit, at least for real networks where the graph is available (e.g. twitter and facebook are favourites among people who research social networks). Once you’ve got this big graph of all the people and the chance of a message going between any two of them pairwise, you write down a big matrix, Q = [q_ij] which tells you that a message at person i has such and such a chance to go to person j in one time unit. You then pick the people who got the initial message and make a vector x_0 = [x_i] where the entries are 0 if they didn’t get it and 1/n if they did (n is the number of people who got it). Now you can say, x(t) = exp(tQ) * x_0 and ask all the sorts of questions that you ask. That gives you the chance at each time that each person is receiving the message. To answer “what are the chances someone heard about it in one minute”, sum up x*dt for all times from 0 to 1 minute, subtract out x_0 (because they already got it) and add up the probabilities that are left. If Q is very big, this is expensive to compute (matrix exponentials are expensive) but I think you could scale the whole thing down to a representative sample population. It might be fun to do this a little bit more seriously than a hastily written mailing list post but I think it would always rely on a lot of guesses so would have to be taken with a very big grain of salt. As well, this is just one way you could model the process and there are a number of obvious criticisms (memorylessness jumps right out). Cheers, -w
A few cases come to mind. I also think there are lots of alerts that will not send people screaming into the streets. 9/11 did not really have that effect in most places and it took quite some time for word to spread to people who did not have full time media access. You also have to account for non-urban areas (the majority of our land mass). In a lot of this country you might not see anyone other than the ones you live with for many hours or days at a time. Here is a few times I know I would not get an alert unless it came via cellular. 1. 2 AM when most people are sleeping. 2. Riding in my car for an hour to / from work and listening to a podcast or music on my device. 3. Out in the boat or at the beach. Usually not listening to broadcast media. Alerting cell phones should not be too high a bar to reach. They certainly don't seem to have a problem getting notifications to you from every app you have. It's pretty long overdue coming from companies that constantly brag about their super advanced high speed data networks. It's pretty clear that they are not taking this real serious if you look at how long this executive order is taking to realize. We are talking about years and years. With more and more people cutting their cable and using Internet media vs broadcast media, alerting has actually gotten worse recently. Steven Naslund Chicago IL
I wonder, if there were a real alert, what the odds are that one wouldn't hear about it in 1 minute, 5 minutes, etc even if they didn't personally get it.
Obviously edge cases are possible, you were deep in a cave with your soccer team, but there must be mathematical modeling of that sort of information dispersion.
It would have to account for other possible channels, word of mouth, facebook, twitter, &c posts or really any informatonal source you were on on the internet (e.g., news sites), TV, radio, people screaming in the streets, etc.
On October 8, 2018 at 03:37 SNaslund@medline.com (Naslund, Steve) wrote:
A few cases come to mind. I also think there are lots of alerts that will not send people screaming into the streets. 9/11 did not really have that effect in most places and it took quite some time for word to spread to people who did not have full time media access. You also have to account for non-urban areas (the majority of our land mass). In a lot of this country you might not see anyone other than the ones you live with for many hours or days at a time.
9/11 literally did send people out into the streets screaming. Even nationwide skyscrapers were evacuated in some cities. In Chicago Sears tower (and I believe the Amoco tower according to some eyewitnesses) were evacuated at about 10AM. So was the IDS tower in Minneapolis (57 stories, tallest in the city.) The White House and Capitol building were evacuated a little earlier, about 9:30AM. And the UN in NYC. At about 10:45AM NYC mayor Rudi Giuliani ordered the total evacuation of all of Lower Manhattan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attac... The article below lists the evacuations of the Coca-Cola and BellSouth buildings, CNN center in Atlanta. And several more in Los Angeles (Citibank tower etc.) Well, read the article, Detroit, the Grand Coulee Dam, etc. http://articles.latimes.com/2001/sep/11/news/ss-44625 I suppose one can go back to the phrase "most places", sure, MOST places even in western Europe weren't bombed in WWII or even affected physically (i.e., by ordnance of any sort.) P.S. Over 80% of the US population is urban. I suppose since every life is precious one can measure the effectiveness based on "land mass" but then one wonders if some sheep out in a field in Idaho really care that the US was just invaded...put better: You do what you can! -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
Just as a small point of contention, if you lose the bread basket and the agricultural industries, you might as well have never received an emergency alert in a city where the supplies and fresh food will run out and people will be fighting and killing each other for a Snickers bar. No good saving millions of people if you can't feed more than thousands. Just my $.02. :) On 10/08/2018 12:42 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
I suppose since every life is precious one can measure the effectiveness based on "land mass" but then one wonders if some sheep out in a field in Idaho really care that the US was just invaded...put better: You do what you can!
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
I suppose since every life is precious one can measure the effectiveness based on "land mass" but then one wonders if some sheep out in a field in Idaho really care that the US was just invaded...put better: You do what you can!
How quickly we forget. Puerto Rico's catastrophe was only a year ago. Per capita fatalities in rural areas are usually higher than cities after a disaster. Telecommunications are even more important in rural areas because you have fewer disaster response resources than in cities. Rural areas receive warnings later, have fewer emergency responders, fewer advanced trauma hospitals. There are more neighbors helping neighbors in cities, and more potential sources of help in densely populated areas. Telecommunication providers are less likely to spend money hardening infrastructure in rural areas, because there is less business. Its easy to find alternative telecommunications in New York City. Its hard to find backup telecommunications in Idaho. A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico for months.
On October 8, 2018 at 16:37 sean@donelan.com (Sean Donelan) wrote:
A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico for months.
Which is why it's more relevant to this list than some were grousing since people here are often the ones keeping the infrastructure this has to travel on running. The US govt should pay us all to discuss this! -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
I am wondering if this seems common to most of you on here. In my area it seems that all cellular sites have backup generators and battery backup. Seems like the biggest issues we see are devices remote from the central offices that lose power and cause disruptions, like RSTs and SLCs. During hurricane Katrina we saw a lot of active outside plant devices underwater and that caused lots of disruption even when the CO survived. Steven Naslund Chicago IL
On October 8, 2018 at 16:37 sean@donelan.com (Sean Donelan) wrote: A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico for months.
I agree 100% and also have noticed that severe weather systems tend to more severe in rural areas due to either open spaces (the plains) or trees (forested areas) doing more damage. I can tell you from living the in Midwest that the storms in Iowa and Nebraska are way worse than the ones that hit Chicago. A weather guy I know told me it has something to do with convective heat rising from major cities which is why you rarely see tornados hitting downtown Chicago and New York. I have noticed that for some reason local weather alerts seem to be more reliable than the national level tests on cellular. Don't know if it has to do with shear volume or what. Also, like I said earlier in rural areas you are less likely to run into a bystander that knows what is going on. Steven Naslund Chicago IL
How quickly we forget. Puerto Rico's catastrophe was only a year ago. Per capita fatalities in rural areas are usually higher than cities after a disaster. Telecommunications are even more important in rural areas because you have fewer disaster response resources than in cities. Rural areas receive warnings later, have fewer emergency responders, fewer advanced trauma hospitals. There are more neighbors helping neighbors in cities, and more potential sources of help in densely populated areas.
Telecommunication providers are less likely to spend money hardening infrastructure in rural areas, because there is less business. Its easy to find alternative telecommunications in New York City. Its hard to find backup telecommunications in Idaho.
A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico for months.
It's likely worth noting that this specific test was of IPAWS (Integrated Public Alert and Warning System), a system designed to integrate the Emergency Alert System, National Warning System, Wireless Emergency Alerts, and NOAA Weather Alerts. It's not intended to be cell phone only or replace anything; it's intended to unify all the pre-existing methods together. This was just the first time cell phones were included in a nationwide test. On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:15 AM Naslund, Steve <SNaslund@medline.com> wrote:
I agree 100% and also have noticed that severe weather systems tend to more severe in rural areas due to either open spaces (the plains) or trees (forested areas) doing more damage. I can tell you from living the in Midwest that the storms in Iowa and Nebraska are way worse than the ones that hit Chicago. A weather guy I know told me it has something to do with convective heat rising from major cities which is why you rarely see tornados hitting downtown Chicago and New York. I have noticed that for some reason local weather alerts seem to be more reliable than the national level tests on cellular. Don't know if it has to do with shear volume or what. Also, like I said earlier in rural areas you are less likely to run into a bystander that knows what is going on.
Steven Naslund Chicago IL
How quickly we forget. Puerto Rico's catastrophe was only a year ago. Per capita fatalities in rural areas are usually higher than cities after a disaster. Telecommunications are even more important in rural areas because you have fewer disaster response resources than in cities. Rural areas receive warnings later, have fewer emergency responders, fewer advanced trauma hospitals. There are more neighbors helping neighbors in cities, and more potential sources of help in densely populated areas.
Telecommunication providers are less likely to spend money hardening infrastructure in rural areas, because there is less business. Its easy to find alternative telecommunications in New York City. Its hard to find backup telecommunications in Idaho.
A nation-wide WEA and EAS system helps warn people in both cities and rural areas. But they still depend on carriers and broadcasters. If there are no backup batteries in cell towers, or backup transmitters for broadcasters, you end up with communication blackouts like in Puerto Rico for months.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
Just to try to squeeze something worthwhile out of these reports...
I wonder, if there were a real alert, what the odds are that one wouldn't hear about it in 1 minute, 5 minutes, etc even if they didn't personally get it.
What happens when people don't get warnings? Gatlinburg, TN - 2016 Wildfires - 14 fatalities Northern California - 2017 Wildfires - 44 fatalities Yes, neighbors alerted neighbors, local emergency officials drove through the streets and knocked on doors, radio and television stations broke into programming. It took hours, and eventually about 200,000 people were warned. But the wildfires moved faster than those other alerting methods. Sometimes people are asleep (disasters don't always happen at 2pm on a work day), live alone, are not constantly watching TV or checking social media. Its unlikely any system will ever be able to reach everyone. WEA reaches more people (about 70% of the national population), much faster (about 10-15 seconds), day and night (most people keep their mobile phones near them even while sleeping) than the existing warning systems. But they should still be used in combination, not exclusive. Warning systems depend on communication service providers keeping their systems operating, i.e. cell towers with backup power, ISPs with diversity in their networks, etc.
On 10/05/2018 04:47 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
Just to try to squeeze something worthwhile out of these reports...
I wonder, if there were a real alert, what the odds are that one wouldn't hear about it in 1 minute, 5 minutes, etc even if they didn't personally get it.
What happens when people don't get warnings?
Gatlinburg, TN - 2016 Wildfires - 14 fatalities
Northern California - 2017 Wildfires - 44 fatalities
Yes, neighbors alerted neighbors, local emergency officials drove through the streets and knocked on doors, radio and television stations broke into programming. It took hours, and eventually about 200,000 people were warned. But the wildfires moved faster than those other alerting methods.
Sometimes people are asleep (disasters don't always happen at 2pm on a work day), live alone, are not constantly watching TV or checking social media.
Its unlikely any system will ever be able to reach everyone. WEA reaches more people (about 70% of the national population), much faster (about 10-15 seconds), day and night (most people keep their mobile phones near them even while sleeping) than the existing warning systems. But they should still be used in combination, not exclusive.
Warning systems depend on communication service providers keeping their systems operating, i.e. cell towers with backup power, ISPs with diversity in their networks, etc.
If we ever get our earthquake early warning system, people definitely have incentive to pay attention since a minute before the incoming S waves ain't a lot of time, but could be a lifesaver. Mike
Re: EAS alert, people not being reached That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.) I recall in NYC as a kid you were expected (maybe legally required, not sure) to head off the streets and to the nearest shelter. And people did. If you were a wise guy teen and didn't and a cop saw you you'd get an earful (don't ask me how I know this.) Some areas particularly near the shore have similar siren systems. Probably a bigger issue which isn't as apparent from a test is do people have any reasonable options even if they are completely aware that negotiations with the UFOs have collapsed and the death rays have started? In the days when nuclear attack was more likely we'd often say that it's all well and good to be alerted but seriously wtf are we supposed to do (duck and cover!)? Beyond "better than nothing!"? Granted for some proportion of the population a half-baked response is a lot better than none. If you're likely 2+ miles from a 1MT nuclear air burst just going into your cellars and away from windows (flying glass and debris) would probably save most of those lives and much injury at least from the initial blast. So, EAS alert may be better than nothing for many but some enumeration of why one might get one and what would be a reasonable reaction to each case would be useful. Otherwise it's just "ALERT! YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE!" Ok... Of course for many here it might mean "switch to alternate power source immediately". -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
Hopefully Google and Amazon product engineers are listening: EAS/NWS alert messages could come over your various devices to help the consumer... The NEST Protect smoke alarms would particularly be useful for NWS Alerts (i.e. they're loud and could broadcast "TORNADO! SEEK SHELTER IMMEDIATELY!") Already having ~6 Nest Protects, and a few Home devices, I can't seem myself ever needing to spend money on another one...unless version next.0 included an internal antenna that could pick up NWS alerts....seems like a good source of new hardware revenue to me... -A On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:25 PM <bzs@theworld.com> wrote:
Re: EAS alert, people not being reached
That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.)
I recall in NYC as a kid you were expected (maybe legally required, not sure) to head off the streets and to the nearest shelter. And people did. If you were a wise guy teen and didn't and a cop saw you you'd get an earful (don't ask me how I know this.)
Some areas particularly near the shore have similar siren systems.
Probably a bigger issue which isn't as apparent from a test is do people have any reasonable options even if they are completely aware that negotiations with the UFOs have collapsed and the death rays have started?
In the days when nuclear attack was more likely we'd often say that it's all well and good to be alerted but seriously wtf are we supposed to do (duck and cover!)? Beyond "better than nothing!"?
Granted for some proportion of the population a half-baked response is a lot better than none. If you're likely 2+ miles from a 1MT nuclear air burst just going into your cellars and away from windows (flying glass and debris) would probably save most of those lives and much injury at least from the initial blast.
So, EAS alert may be better than nothing for many but some enumeration of why one might get one and what would be a reasonable reaction to each case would be useful.
Otherwise it's just "ALERT! YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE!" Ok...
Of course for many here it might mean "switch to alternate power source immediately".
-- -Barry Shein
Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.)
Where I grew up, the “Civil Defense Warning” was used for air raids, nuclear defense, and tornado warnings. By regulation, it was tested monthly. When we heard it, which we did, the usual response was “they’re testing the siren again” and resumption of the barely-interrupted activity.
On 10/07/2018 03:49 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.) Where I grew up, the “Civil Defense Warning” was used for air raids, nuclear defense, and tornado warnings. By regulation, it was tested monthly. When we heard it, which we did, the usual response was “they’re testing the siren again” and resumption of the barely-interrupted activity.
12pm every tuesday here in SF. It's not always very easy to understand given the echos though. Mike
On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.)
_Wired_ has an interesting history of the various networked and standalone national alert systems that FEMA and its predecessors have tried over the years, many of them of limited success: https://www.wired.com/story/presidential-text-alert-fema-emergency-history/ - Brian https://www.dpvintageposters.com/cgi-local/detail.cgi?d=2469
On October 7, 2018 at 15:49 fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com (Fred Baker) wrote:
On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
That was one advantage of the old air raid siren system, it was difficult to ignore and required nothing special to receive (hearing impaired excepted.)
Where I grew up, the “Civil Defense Warning” was used for air raids, nuclear defense, and tornado warnings. By regulation, it was tested monthly. When we heard it, which we did, the usual response was “they’re testing the siren again” and resumption of the barely-interrupted activity.
No doubt we'll get there with these presidential alerts, just give it time :-) I'll get "amber alerts" regionally and just about every time it's nearly impossible that I could even with the best of intentions do a thing in response. Some non-custodial parent absconded with two kids 50 miles from here in a black honda or toyota...ok gotcha I'll keep my eyes peeled...no doubt a terrible and stressful event for those involved but... So I tend not to be in a big rush to look at those alerts, actually I think I turned them off which in that case was an option. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
Received on 2x VZW/Androids in Greeley, CO, :18 MDT, via radio :21. Frank Whiteley GreeleyNet Online 970-330-2050 techzone@greeleynet.com -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Andy Ringsmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 12:53 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test Did anyone on AT&T or an iPhone receive the test today? I believe it was supposed to happen at 2:18 EDT, followed by one on broadcast radio at 2:20 EDT. I’m in CDT, so 1:18 and 1:20 p.m. CDT. Message was heard on my desk radio at 1:21:35 p.m. CDT but as of the sending of this at 1:52 p.m. CDT, nothing on phones. I have an office full of AT&T iPhones and not a single one of them alerted. FEMA says https://www.fema.gov/emergency-alert-test "Cell towers will broadcast the WEA test for approximately 30 minutes beginning at 2:18 p.m. EDT. During this time, WEA compatible cell phones that are switched on, within range of an active cell tower, and whose wireless provider participates in WEA should be capable of receiving the test message. Some cell phones will not receive the test message, and cell phones should only receive the message once." My wife, with a Sprint iPhone, received the test. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy@andyring.com
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