Life just got more interesting for the crackers. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257 Yesterday a new virus was announced on the news. It's only an email virus, but in light of the above, the timing is interesting. The bar is being raised. Between Code Red and Nimda, the past few months have been most interesting, network-wise. By any stretch of the imagination, wyrm spawning falls well within the boundary of "terrorist acts". The idea is that; to coerce behavior, via threat of harm or direct action to commit harm, is an act of terrorism. There goes the argument that crackers are doing us all a favor by exploiting security holes. -- R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company tel: +1 925 373 3954 cel: +1 925 352 3615 fax: +1 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com
By that definition, simple armed robbery is terrorism. It would go something like this: Robber: Give me your wallet. Victim: Ok, just don't shoot me, I'll do anything you say. (Reaches slowly into back pocket) Here you go. Robber: Lay down on the ground and count to 20 before you get up or I'll shoot you. Victim: Whatever you say. The end result is that the robber coerced the victim into behaving a certain way. He's going up the river for terrorism if he gets caught. Larry Diffey I speak for my employer because I am my employer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> To: "NANOG (E-mail)" <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: The wyrms and the law.
Life just got more interesting for the crackers.
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
Yesterday a new virus was announced on the news. It's only an email virus, but in light of the above, the timing is interesting. The bar is being raised. Between Code Red and Nimda, the past few months have been most interesting, network-wise. By any stretch of the imagination, wyrm
spawning
falls well within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
The idea is that; to coerce behavior, via threat of harm or direct action to commit harm, is an act of terrorism. There goes the argument that crackers are doing us all a favor by exploiting security holes.
-- R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company tel: +1 925 373 3954 cel: +1 925 352 3615 fax: +1 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com
its worse than that.... :) releasing buggy software that increases your systems vulnerability might fall within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> To: "NANOG (E-mail)" <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: The wyrms and the law.
Life just got more interesting for the crackers.
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
Yesterday a new virus was announced on the news. It's only an email virus, but in light of the above, the timing is interesting. The bar is being raised. Between Code Red and Nimda, the past few months have been most interesting, network-wise. By any stretch of the imagination, wyrm
spawning
falls well within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
The idea is that; to coerce behavior, via threat of harm or direct action to commit harm, is an act of terrorism. There goes the argument that crackers are doing us all a favor by exploiting security holes.
-- R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company tel: +1 925 373 3954 cel: +1 925 352 3615 fax: +1 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com
That would only apply if there was malicious intent. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> To: "Larry Diffey" <ldiffey@technologyforward.com> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: Re: The wyrms and the law.
its worse than that.... :)
releasing buggy software that increases your systems vulnerability might fall within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> To: "NANOG (E-mail)" <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: The wyrms and the law.
Life just got more interesting for the crackers.
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257
Yesterday a new virus was announced on the news. It's only an email
virus,
but in light of the above, the timing is interesting. The bar is being raised. Between Code Red and Nimda, the past few months have been most interesting, network-wise. By any stretch of the imagination, wyrm spawning falls well within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
The idea is that; to coerce behavior, via threat of harm or direct action to commit harm, is an act of terrorism. There goes the argument that crackers are doing us all a favor by exploiting security holes.
-- R O E L A N D M J M E Y E R Managing Director Morgan Hill Software Company tel: +1 925 373 3954 cel: +1 925 352 3615 fax: +1 925 373 9781 http://www.mhsc.com
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:14:29 -0000, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com said:
"Visualize Whorld Peas"
bonus points for quote attribution.
I saw 'Visualize Whirled Peas' as a slogan for the UNC VR center a number of years ago. I didn't get it at the time, because I hadn't seen the original slogan. -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
That would only apply if there was malicious intent.
releasing buggy software that increases your systems vulnerability might fall within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
Ah yes, the "strategic incompetence" defence... --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com Sent: September 25, 2001 3:57 PM To: Larry Diffey Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: The wyrms and the law.
its worse than that.... :)
releasing buggy software that increases your systems vulnerability might fall within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
Does that mean that the new training camps for terrorists will be in Redmond, WA instead of Afghanistan? Vivien -- Vivien M. vivienm@dyndns.org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:37:47PM -0400, Vivien M. wrote:
Subject: Re: The wyrms and the law.
its worse than that.... :)
releasing buggy software that increases your systems vulnerability might fall within the boundary of "terrorist acts".
Does that mean that the new training camps for terrorists will be in Redmond, WA instead of Afghanistan?
new? -- [ Jim Mercer jim@reptiles.org +1 416 410-5633 ] [ Now with more and longer words for your reading enjoyment. ]
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