Re:RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do y
Just curious, Would HP's Openview Network Node Manager be suitable for this application? I evaluated NNM some time ago but found it rather bloated and I figured that it would really only be truly useful in an HP-UX environment where NNM could integrate with all the other Openview components. One thing I found appealing is that NNM sits on an Oracle backend (according to the marketroids, anyhow), meaning that you could run reports till the cows came home. I've always been told that trend analysis is where OpenView Network Node Manager shines. Plus, it's Fully Buzzword Compliant. Every IT manager's eyes light up when they hear "OpenView", but is it really useful in a real-world scenario? For network monitoring, I've actually grown to really like IpSwitch Software's WhatsUp Gold. I wrote it off for a long time but grudgingly tried it out during a time crunch and was pretty impressed. It's bare-bones, and NT-only, but it's so durn easy to get up and running with it in a pinch. It handles ICMP, SNMP, and RMON with threshold alerts. I'm thinking it supports a wide variety of MIBs. I found its reporting a bit lacking, though. It probably would be more or less useless for trend analysis. I'm sure I'd get more out of MRTG is I was more comfortable with Perl. One of my projects has been to investigate monitoring/trending solutions under Linux/*BSD. Apparently somebody just created a Debian distribution for net telemetry collection. I haven't found much under Linux for RMON yet, and there certainly doesn't appear to be anything like a free full-featured monitoring/trending suite out there. Any suggestions? -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc chicago 60603 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do you Author: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu Date: 2/21/01 9:45 AM Actually you probably need to look at VitalNet.. This is a competing product to Concorde NetHealth... -----Original Message----- From: John Starta [mailto:john@starta.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:23 PM To: Lee Watterworth Lucent's VitalSuite (either SP or Enterprise) software is definitely worth a look. You can find detailed information about it on their web site: http://www.lucentnps.com/software/ jas At 05:44 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Lee Watterworth wrote:
I have been handed the task of finding a monitoring/trending package for our network and systems.
I will be looking at the package's collection mechanism for flexibility (snmp gets, traps, rmon), and the variety/configurability of the reports it can produce. The package should be able to provide (configurable) alerts when threshholds are met/surpassed.
I have been evaluating Concord's eHealth Suite, and would like to evaluate other options before I commit to a particular package.
Any feedback would be great.
-Lee.
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:30:00AM +0000, CARL P HIRSCH wrote:
Every IT manager's eyes light up when they hear "OpenView", but is it really useful in a real-world scenario?
FedEx uses it to monitor several thousand servers, routers, and other gear.
[Disclaimer: I'm talking about $100K+ network monitoring systems here. For free usage monitoring, IMO you can't beat Cricket, http://cricket.sourceforge.net] Most larger ISPs that I've talked to seem to have gone beyond Openview for network monitoring (or at least it's only one of the systems in use). Micromuse Netcool gets mentioned a lot of places for service/router monitoring, but it doesn't (out of the box) do usage monitoring or trending. Riversoft's Openriver is very, very shiny, and I believe their new release was slated to do usage data collection, with some interesting abilities to profile 'normal' traffic on a link and alert when it stops being normal (more options than just 'if it goes over 90%, send a trap'). Quallaby's Proviso is apparently also pretty good for usage monitoring, but I haven't played with it. I seem to remember there was a discussion about this on inet-access around a year ago where someone posted some good evaluations - http://www.moongroup.com/inet.php might be your friend for tracking it down. news:c omp.dcom.net-management might also be a good place to look (if only deja still worked :-). Cheers, Phil Sykes, Network Engineer Cable & Wireless Global Network ----- Original Message ----- From: "CARL P HIRSCH" <CARL.P.HIRSCH@slchicago.infonet.com> Cc: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: Re:RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do y
Just curious, Would HP's Openview Network Node Manager be suitable for this application? I evaluated NNM some time ago but found it rather bloated and I figured that it would really only be truly useful in an HP-UX environment where NNM could integrate with all the other Openview components. One thing I found appealing is that NNM sits on an Oracle backend (according to the marketroids, anyhow), meaning that you could run reports till the cows came home. I've always been told that trend analysis is where OpenView Network Node Manager shines. Plus, it's Fully Buzzword Compliant.
Every IT manager's eyes light up when they hear "OpenView", but is it really useful in a real-world scenario?
For network monitoring, I've actually grown to really like IpSwitch Software's WhatsUp Gold. I wrote it off for a long time but grudgingly tried it out during a time crunch and was pretty impressed. It's bare-bones, and NT-only, but it's so durn easy to get up and running with it in a pinch. It handles ICMP, SNMP, and RMON with threshold alerts. I'm thinking it supports a wide variety of MIBs. I found its reporting a bit lacking, though. It probably would be more or less useless for trend analysis.
I'm sure I'd get more out of MRTG is I was more comfortable with Perl. One of my projects has been to investigate monitoring/trending solutions under Linux/*BSD. Apparently somebody just created a Debian distribution for net telemetry collection. I haven't found much under Linux for RMON yet, and there certainly doesn't appear to be anything like a free full-featured monitoring/trending suite out there. Any suggestions?
-carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc chicago 60603
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: Monitoring/Trending Software -- Which Package(s) do you Author: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu Date: 2/21/01 9:45 AM
Actually you probably need to look at VitalNet.. This is a competing product to Concorde NetHealth...
-----Original Message----- From: John Starta [mailto:john@starta.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:23 PM To: Lee Watterworth
Lucent's VitalSuite (either SP or Enterprise) software is definitely worth a look. You can find detailed information about it on their web site: http://www.lucentnps.com/software/
jas
At 05:44 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Lee Watterworth wrote:
I have been handed the task of finding a monitoring/trending package for our network and systems.
I will be looking at the package's collection mechanism for flexibility (snmp gets, traps, rmon), and the variety/configurability of the reports it can produce. The package should be able to provide (configurable) alerts when threshholds are met/surpassed.
I have been evaluating Concord's eHealth Suite, and would like to evaluate other options before I commit to a particular package.
Any feedback would be great.
-Lee.
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