I just had to respond to this thread and throw my 2 cents in. I can certainly see the frustration of hiring managers (having done so myself) that receive a load of resumes full of "certified" individuals who don't know squat. That is what a tech interview is for, though isn't it? Unfortunately to get to that interview you need a bit of flash to get your foot in the door. The world is as full of people claiming to be a linux guru as it is of MCSE's. I think some certs at least show that you are capable of learning, and some of the higher level ones show that you are capable of understanding/using concepts as well. Now I freely admit to being a cert collector/whore - I just do it for fun nowadays but I am willing to back every bit of it up in a tech interview - in fact I normally ask to tech interview with the heads of the unix, security, AND networking groups to prove I know what I claim to know (and I'm pretty sure I could pass as a high-level Microsoft guy if I desired). But it would be a tragic mistake on anyone's behalf to pre-assume that all those letters means I don't know what I am talking about. That's stereotyping, isn't it? -- Don Mills SCSA SCNA CCNP CCDP CISSP CQS-VPN CQS-PIX Chief Network Security/WAN Architect VA Dept. of Social Services don.mills@dss.virginia.gov
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Don Mills wrote:
But it would be a tragic mistake on anyone's behalf to pre-assume that all those letters means I don't know what I am talking about. That's stereotyping, isn't it?
Don (take it as a good-spirited needling, please) I'd like to point out that this means that you have way too much spare time and an employer who doesn't care much about squeezing from you all 110% of what you can possibly do :) --vadim
Nah. I'm just a quick study and it's better than drinking all weekend. On Thursday 13 November 2003 05:07 pm, Vadim Antonov wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Don Mills wrote:
But it would be a tragic mistake on anyone's behalf to pre-assume that all those letters means I don't know what I am talking about. That's stereotyping, isn't it?
Don (take it as a good-spirited needling, please) I'd like to point out that this means that you have way too much spare time and an employer who doesn't care much about squeezing from you all 110% of what you can possibly do :)
--vadim
-- Don Mills SCSA SCNA CCNP CCDP CISSP CQS-VPN CQS-PIX Network Security/WAN Architect VA Dept. of Social Services don.mills@dss.virginia.gov
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