| Not only interesting, but dishonest. Forcing a company to spend money on | false premise is tantamount to theft or conversion. That cisco gives them | the opportunity for doing so is aiding an abetting. Particularly so when | the upgrade cost adds to cisco's revenue. In other words, I sincerely hope | that you are joking. Yes, I'm a "suit" and only a part-time | operator/developer these days. I think you should apply for various open positions in operations management in several large telco-owned U.S.-based ISPs. There was no charge, btw, for moving from one beta to another beta when you had smartnet-style or per-chassis support contracts of the type all of the organizations involved had at the time. Sean.