Are you looking for an active or passive solution? On Feb 07, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: One particular route I'm looking at is 185 miles, so of the options presented 300 km is closest. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> To: "Kenneth McRae" <kenneth.mcrae@me.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it: 2km 30km 300km 3000km Probably the 30-60k range is what you mean by 'long distances' but... clarity might help. On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Kenneth McRae <kenneth.mcrae@me.com> wrote: Mike, I just replaced a bunch of FiberStore WDM passive muxes with OSI Hardware equipment. The FiberStore gear was a huge disappointment (excessive loss, poor technical support, refusal to issue refund without threatening legal action, etc.). I have had good results from the OSI equipment so far. I run passive muxes for CWDM (8 - 16 channels). On Feb 07, 2015, at 09:51 AM, Manuel Marín <mmg@transtelco.net> wrote: Hi Mike I can recommend a couple of vendors that provide cost effective solutions. Ekinops & Packetlight. On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: I know there are various Asian vendors for low cost (less than $500) muxes to throw 16 or however many colors onto a strand. However, they don't work so well when you don't control the optics used on both sides (therefore must use standard wavelengths), obviously only do a handful of channels and have a distance limitation. What solutions are out there that don't cost an arm and a leg? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- TRANSTELCO| Manuel Marin | VP Engineering | US: *+1 915-217-2232* | MX: *+52 656-257-1109* CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicación es sólo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener información privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgación bajo la legislación aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta información, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusión, distribución o copia de la comunicación está estrictamente prohibido.
Well, I'm not an expert in the world of long haul optics, but I think I'd want active over passive for the ability to use standard interfaces on the equipment (routers, switches, etc.) at either end. Then again, maybe something has changed that I don't know about. I would also think active would be better able to go those 185 mile distances than passive. I assume I'd need an amplifier in the middle to even make it that far. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth McRae" <kenneth.mcrae@me.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:17:35 PM Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear Are you looking for an active or passive solution? On Feb 07, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: One particular route I'm looking at is 185 miles, so of the options presented 300 km is closest. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Morrow" < morrowc.lists@gmail.com > To: "Kenneth McRae" < kenneth.mcrae@me.com > Cc: "NANOG" < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:02:11 PM Subject: Re: Low cost WDM gear would be good for mike to define 'long distances' here, is it: 2km 30km 300km 3000km Probably the 30-60k range is what you mean by 'long distances' but... clarity might help. On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Kenneth McRae < kenneth.mcrae@me.com > wrote: <blockquote> Mike, <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> I just replaced a bunch of FiberStore WDM passive muxes with OSI Hardware </blockquote> <blockquote> equipment. The FiberStore gear was a huge disappointment (excessive loss, </blockquote> <blockquote> poor technical support, refusal to issue refund without threatening legal </blockquote> <blockquote> action, etc.). I have had good results from the OSI equipment so far. I </blockquote> <blockquote> run passive muxes for CWDM (8 - 16 channels). </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> On Feb 07, 2015, at 09:51 AM, Manuel Marín < mmg@transtelco.net > wrote: </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> Hi Mike </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> I can recommend a couple of vendors that provide cost effective solutions. </blockquote> <blockquote> Ekinops & Packetlight. </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote: </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> I know there are various Asian vendors for low cost (less than $500) muxes </blockquote> <blockquote> to throw 16 or however many colors onto a strand. However, they don't work </blockquote> <blockquote> so well when you don't control the optics used on both sides (therefore </blockquote> <blockquote> must use standard wavelengths), obviously only do a handful of channels and </blockquote> <blockquote> have a distance limitation. </blockquote> <blockquote> What solutions are out there that don't cost an arm and a leg? </blockquote> <blockquote> ----- </blockquote> <blockquote> Mike Hammett </blockquote> <blockquote> Intelligent Computing Solutions </blockquote> <blockquote> http://www.ics-il.com </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> -- </blockquote> <blockquote> TRANSTELCO| Manuel Marin | VP Engineering | US: *+1 915-217-2232* | MX: *+52 </blockquote> <blockquote> 656-257-1109* </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use </blockquote> <blockquote> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain </blockquote> <blockquote> information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure </blockquote> <blockquote> under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this </blockquote> <blockquote> information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or </blockquote> <blockquote> copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. </blockquote> <blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicación es sólo para el uso de la </blockquote> <blockquote> persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener información </blockquote> <blockquote> privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgación bajo la legislación </blockquote> <blockquote> aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta información, se le notifica que </blockquote> <blockquote> cualquier uso, difusión, distribución o copia de la comunicación está </blockquote> <blockquote> estrictamente prohibido. </blockquote> </blockquote>
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