Hi ! some of our customers complain about really bad routing to www.apple.com As this traceroute shows, the problem can be somewhere at bbnplanet. Since i don have any account there, i cant see the routing from bbnplanet to us. I seems to be asymetric routing or something else... Starting from Hop 13 the times are unacceptable... Does anybody have any idea ? 1 ipgate (194.97.200.22) 5.637 ms 5.048 ms 3.847 ms 2 Stuttgart.seicom.NET (194.97.192.250) 5.589 ms 10.293 ms 5.578 ms 3 Frankfurt.seicom.NET (194.97.193.10) 10.303 ms 14.787 ms 10.394 ms 4 de-cix.seicom.NET (194.97.193.5) 10.520 ms 18.209 ms 10.508 ms 5 Frankfurt.topnet.DE (194.97.192.42) 23.773 ms 11.047 ms 20.590 ms 6 frankfurt.topnet.de (194.97.110.185) 16.412 ms 29.752 ms 22.646 ms 7 Serial3-2.GW1.FFT1.ALTER.NET (146.188.128.21) 112.821 ms 126.477 ms 136.s 8 Fddi0-0.CR2.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.31.226) 125.727 ms 121.155 ms 101.18s 9 512.Hssi4-0.CR2.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.3.90) 199.711 ms 125.035 ms 146.s 10 * Fddi5-0.BR1.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.30.225) 90.574 ms 85.898 ms 11 167.Hssi4-0.CR1.TCO1.Alter.Net (137.39.69.226) 222.667 ms * 174.701 ms 12 411.atm10-0.br2.tco1.alter.net (137.39.13.21) 186.230 ms 182.400 ms 236.s 13 C128.bbnplanet.net (137.39.250.14) 244.497 ms 205.937 ms 184.169 ms 14 * * * 15 * paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.10) 2755.807 ms * 16 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.204) 2721.680 ms * 2754.263 ms 17 * appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 2735.794 ms 2768.584 ms 18 * * tre.apple.com (205.180.175.29) 2685.547 ms 19 www.apple.com (17.254.3.28) 2697.392 ms * * Our AS is 5549, the Source IP is either 194.97.200.30 or 195.254.23.1 The first Net is announces as a /16 from our former upstream, we have 194.97.192.0/18 The second block has no super-route, but is splitted between us and another isp. We have 195.254.0.0/17 Winfried Haug
From: Winfried Haug <nanog@hq.seicom.net> Subject: Routing-Probs within BBnPlanet To: nanog@merit.edu
Greetings. While the NANOG list is for operational problems, it's not a place to send first-order trouble reports. It has a low enough signal/noise ratio as it is, that everyone should be doing their part to fix it. If you're seeing a problem within BBN Planet, please send mail to ops@bbnplanet.com. If you had trouble finding this information somehow, please let us know and we'll try to fix wherever you were looking. In this particular case, a cursory inspection suggests you're seeing saturation on BBN's circuit to the PAIX, an upgrade of which has been on order for some time but for which the circuit vendor has been late on (multiple dates slipped). Thanks. --jhawk
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:39:25 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Hi !
some of our customers complain about really bad routing to www.apple.com
As this traceroute shows, the problem can be somewhere at bbnplanet. Since i don have any account there, i cant see the routing from bbnplanet to us. I seems to be asymetric routing or something else... Starting from Hop 13 the times are unacceptable...
Does anybody have any idea ?
1 ipgate (194.97.200.22) 5.637 ms 5.048 ms 3.847 ms 2 Stuttgart.seicom.NET (194.97.192.250) 5.589 ms 10.293 ms 5.578 ms 3 Frankfurt.seicom.NET (194.97.193.10) 10.303 ms 14.787 ms 10.394 ms 4 de-cix.seicom.NET (194.97.193.5) 10.520 ms 18.209 ms 10.508 ms 5 Frankfurt.topnet.DE (194.97.192.42) 23.773 ms 11.047 ms 20.590 ms 6 frankfurt.topnet.de (194.97.110.185) 16.412 ms 29.752 ms 22.646 ms 7 Serial3-2.GW1.FFT1.ALTER.NET (146.188.128.21) 112.821 ms 126.477 ms 136.s 8 Fddi0-0.CR2.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.31.226) 125.727 ms 121.155 ms 101.18s 9 512.Hssi4-0.CR2.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.3.90) 199.711 ms 125.035 ms 146.s 10 * Fddi5-0.BR1.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.30.225) 90.574 ms 85.898 ms 11 167.Hssi4-0.CR1.TCO1.Alter.Net (137.39.69.226) 222.667 ms * 174.701 ms 12 411.atm10-0.br2.tco1.alter.net (137.39.13.21) 186.230 ms 182.400 ms 236.s 13 C128.bbnplanet.net (137.39.250.14) 244.497 ms 205.937 ms 184.169 ms 14 * * * 15 * paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.10) 2755.807 ms * 16 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.204) 2721.680 ms * 2754.263 ms 17 * appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 2735.794 ms 2768.584 ms 18 * * tre.apple.com (205.180.175.29) 2685.547 ms 19 www.apple.com (17.254.3.28) 2697.392 ms * *
Our AS is 5549, the Source IP is either 194.97.200.30 or 195.254.23.1
The first Net is announces as a /16 from our former upstream, we have 194.97.192.0/18 The second block has no super-route, but is splitted between us and another isp. We have 195.254.0.0/17
Winfried Haug
In message <199707151339.PAA25919@hq.seicom.net>, you write:
Hi !
some of our customers complain about really bad routing to www.apple.com
As this traceroute shows, the problem can be somewhere at bbnplanet. Since i don have any account there, i cant see the routing from bbnplanet to us. I seems to be asymetric routing or something else... Starting from Hop 13 the times are unacceptable...
Does anybody have any idea ?
I don't have any ideas, but here is a traceroute out our BBN link: traceroute to www.apple.com (17.254.3.24), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 sti7513.smart-nap.net (207.123.21.1) 1.029 ms 0.748 ms 0.809 ms 2 dallas2-cr3.bbnplanet.net (207.123.24.133) 5.441 ms 5.456 ms 5.295 ms 3 dallas2-br1.bbnplanet.net (204.167.201.33) 71.97 ms 101.9 ms 99.559 ms 4 dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.141) 8.141 ms 7.685 ms 7.047 ms 5 la1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.101) 36.91 ms 36.997 ms 37.157 ms 6 la1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.161) 37.666 ms 37.105 ms 38.404 ms 7 la2-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.138) 38.406 ms 38.135 ms 38.326 ms 8 paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.33) 45.515 ms 46.488 ms 45.29 ms 9 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.204) 56.401 ms 54.152 ms 57.976 ms 10 appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 49.464 ms 88.089 ms 56.152 ms 11 tre.apple.com (205.180.175.29) 51.387 ms 53.663 ms 49.779 ms 12 www.apple.com (17.254.3.24) 49.839 ms 47.488 ms 48.634 ms -- Michael Parson SMART Technologies
BBNPlanet runs a great noc, with very helpful and technical people. Use it. ops@bbnplanet.com rob
In message <199707151339.PAA25919@hq.seicom.net>, you write:
Hi !
some of our customers complain about really bad routing to www.apple.com
As this traceroute shows, the problem can be somewhere at bbnplanet. Since i don have any account there, i cant see the routing from bbnplanet to us. I seems to be asymetric routing or something else... Starting from Hop 13 the times are unacceptable...
Does anybody have any idea ?
I don't have any ideas, but here is a traceroute out our BBN link:
traceroute to www.apple.com (17.254.3.24), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 sti7513.smart-nap.net (207.123.21.1) 1.029 ms 0.748 ms 0.809 ms 2 dallas2-cr3.bbnplanet.net (207.123.24.133) 5.441 ms 5.456 ms 5.295 ms 3 dallas2-br1.bbnplanet.net (204.167.201.33) 71.97 ms 101.9 ms 99.559 ms 4 dallas1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.141) 8.141 ms 7.685 ms 7.047 ms 5 la1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.101) 36.91 ms 36.997 ms 37.157 ms 6 la1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.161) 37.666 ms 37.105 ms 38.404 ms 7 la2-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.138) 38.406 ms 38.135 ms 38.326 ms 8 paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.33) 45.515 ms 46.488 ms 45.29 ms 9 paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.204) 56.401 ms 54.152 ms 57.976 ms 10 appl.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.30) 49.464 ms 88.089 ms 56.152 ms 11 tre.apple.com (205.180.175.29) 51.387 ms 53.663 ms 49.779 ms 12 www.apple.com (17.254.3.24) 49.839 ms 47.488 ms 48.634 ms
-- Michael Parson SMART Technologies
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