| Yeah, it tells you when to change vendors. Yeah, to Digex, if you're an end user who doesn't want to try to share your ISP's bottlenecks with hordes of "mice" traffic in the form of short HTML transactions which react so badly to congestion en masse that other flows likely never reach equilibrium. In short, if you want to run a VPN and have a decent degree of performance, look to an ISP who either _really_ does no overbooking (rather than just says so) or who overbooks but who uses this kind of mandatory caching scheme and RED in combination. Sean.