NSI Bulletin 098-008 | New Registration Agreement
Effective immediately, Network Solutions is introducing Domain Name Registration Agreement version 4.0 that will replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation. Registration and modification requests will be processed using either version of the agreement (3.5 and 4.0) through April 30, 1998, but the payment terms specified in version 4.0 will apply for registrations and re-registrations starting April 1, 1998. Effective May 1, 1998, only version 4.0 will be accepted for registrations and modifications. The new agreement can be found at: ftp://rs.internic.net/templates/domain-template.txt The main changes are found in Section B of the agreement. An explanation of these changes follows. For domain names with registration or anniversary dates on or before March 31, 1998, the fees are $100.00 U.S. and $50.00 U.S. respectively. These fees include a 30% Intellectual Infrastructure Fund contribution that Network Solutions is required to collect and deposit in an account through an agreement with the National Science Foundation. (Re-registrations of these names, in the future, will not include the 30% fee.) For domain names with registration or anniversary dates on or after April 1, 1998, the current fees are $70.00 U.S. and $35.00 U.S. respectively. These fees do not include the 30% Intellectual Infrastructure Fund contribution because this requirement ends midnight, March 31, 1998 Eastern Standard Time. Please note that the registration or anniversary date determines the fee amount, NOT the date paid. If you have any further questions, please call (703) 742-4777. Best Regards, Network Solutions _____________________________________ Chuck Gomes Director of Customer Programs Network Solutions, Inc.
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Chuck Gomes wrote:
Effective immediately, Network Solutions is introducing Domain Name Registration Agreement version 4.0 that will replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
Cool. So, is NSI going to abide by _this_ version any better than they have with previous versions? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592 Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
So, are we going to get refunds? Dirk On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:54:22PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Chuck Gomes wrote:
Effective immediately, Network Solutions is introducing Domain Name Registration Agreement version 4.0 that will replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
Cool.
So, is NSI going to abide by _this_ version any better than they have with previous versions?
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 dirk@power.net wrote:
So, are we going to get refunds?
That would mean that the NSF (your tax dollars) would have to pay for doling out many, many small checks or else the fund itself would pay for the issuing of checks thereby reducing a meagre refund to a measly refund. I think it would be much nicer if the money were to be given to some group that would spend it on its intended purpose. Let IAB dole it out as research grants or some such... -- Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
Michael Dillon writes:
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 dirk@power.net wrote:
So, are we going to get refunds?
That would mean that the NSF (your tax dollars) would have to pay for doling out many, many small checks or else the fund itself would pay for the issuing of checks thereby reducing a meagre refund to a measly refund.
I think it would be much nicer if the money were to be given to some group that would spend it on its intended purpose. Let IAB dole it out as research grants or some such...
Not likely the courts will see it that way. They'll probably require that the money be returned, or given back to the users in the form of free service from NSI or some such. Perry
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 04:41:37PM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
I think it would be much nicer if the money were to be given to some group that would spend it on its intended purpose. Let IAB dole it out as research grants or some such...
Not likely the courts will see it that way. They'll probably require that the money be returned, or given back to the users in the form of free service from NSI or some such.
If NSI _had_ that money, Perry, that might be true. Alas, they don't. It went to the government. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592 Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
The whole reason its been repealed, if I am not mistaken, is because it is an illegal tax in the first place, but then again, I haven't heard the court ruling yet. -Deepak. On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Michael Dillon wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 dirk@power.net wrote:
So, are we going to get refunds?
That would mean that the NSF (your tax dollars) would have to pay for doling out many, many small checks or else the fund itself would pay for the issuing of checks thereby reducing a meagre refund to a measly refund.
I think it would be much nicer if the money were to be given to some group that would spend it on its intended purpose. Let IAB dole it out as research grants or some such...
-- Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Deepak Jain wrote: NSI contends that the court has not found it to be an illegal tax yet, and that they (the courts) simply have issued an injunction to stop NSI from collecting it. This statement was in a reply to me when I inquired about the domain fee for domains registered prior to 4/1/98; apparently, those domains will still be $50 per year. It will be interesting to see how that extra $15 will be accounted for--since it can no longer go into the infrastructure fund (via court ruling), where will it go? (I had also heard that the final ruling was that it indeed was an illegal tax...) /cah ==> ==>The whole reason its been repealed, if I am not mistaken, is because it ==>is an illegal tax in the first place, but then again, I haven't heard the ==>court ruling yet. ==> ==>-Deepak. ==> ==>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Michael Dillon wrote: ==> ==>> On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 dirk@power.net wrote: ==>> ==>> > So, are we going to get refunds? ==>> ==>> That would mean that the NSF (your tax dollars) would have to pay for ==>> doling out many, many small checks or else the fund itself would pay for ==>> the issuing of checks thereby reducing a meagre refund to a measly refund. ==>> ==>> I think it would be much nicer if the money were to be given to some group ==>> that would spend it on its intended purpose. Let IAB dole it out as ==>> research grants or some such... ==>> ==>> -- ==>> Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting ==>> http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com ==>> ==>> ==>> ==>
Sure, with a small service fee of, say $30/domain. :) -Deepak. On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 dirk@power.net wrote:
So, are we going to get refunds?
Dirk
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:54:22PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Chuck Gomes wrote:
Effective immediately, Network Solutions is introducing Domain Name Registration Agreement version 4.0 that will replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
Cool.
So, is NSI going to abide by _this_ version any better than they have with previous versions?
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
In article <19980330112641.41919@orlando.power.net> you write:
So, are we going to get refunds?
If the class action allegations are upheld in court, yes. See: http://www.aira.org/legal/filing1.html
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Chuck Gomes wrote:
replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
-- Bob Kupiec Verio Northeast http://northeast.verio.net/~kupiec Princeton, NJ
At 13:54 3/30/98 -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Chuck Gomes wrote:
Effective immediately, Network Solutions is introducing Domain Name Registration Agreement version 4.0 that will replace version 3.5. The new agreement reflects fee changes for domain name registrations and renewals following the elimination of the Intellectual Infrastructure Fund portion of the fee on April 1, 1998, pursuant to an amendment to Network Solutions' Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
Cool.
So, is NSI going to abide by _this_ version any better than they have with previous versions?
Please tell me that you're NOT holding your breath. NSI is maintaining that a Federal judge in the lawsuit against NSI ruling that collecting the IIF portion of the registration fee was an "illegal tax" had "absolutely nothing" to do with the change. And we all believe that mere coincidence, or cosmic alignment, caused the change in fees after it was ruled illegal. You'll also note that there's no mention of a refund of any of the fees, although since NSI was acting as an agent in the matter and could not spend the money it may not be their problem. BTW: Inter@ctive Week magazine did an article this week on the WhoIs problem at InterNIC (with contributions by yours truly). I haven't seen it yet (not a commonly-carried magazine 'round here) but it should be good. Spam: it's not just for breakfast anymore.... Dean Robb PC-Easy On-site computer services (757) 495-EASY [3279]
participants (9)
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Bob Kupiec
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Chuck Gomes
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Craig A. Huegen
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Dean Robb
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Deepak Jain
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dirk@power.net
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Jay R. Ashworth
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Michael Dillon
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Perry E. Metzger