Richard, I know a few news server admins who might disagree with you. Or at least it seems that way at times. ;) I typically have a 251Kbps (broadband) stream from www.thebasement.com.au running in the background when on line. The stream is coming out of Australia (don't think it's been Akakamized yet. Did I spell that right?) so that stream is on a US backbone. That's in addition to anything else I may be doing. This is only a single point of data but single points eventually add up to a bucket. Additional thoughts. Wonder what that peak traffic would be if individual sites and services weren't as rate limited as most are by pipe size, hardware or software? Or how about a 6Gbps HDTV video conference stream (UCLA (?)- MIT on Internet2). Just my 2¢. The delete key is your friend. -Al Rowland -----Original Message----- From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:ras@e-gerbil.net] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:07 PM To: Stephen J. Wilcox Cc: Deepak Jain; Miquel van Smoorenburg; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Sprint peering policy On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 12:47:36AM +0100, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

I'm curious about all these comments on bandwidth, "few Mbs is nothing", "dropping OC48 to IXs".

Theres an imbalance somewhere, everyone on this list claims to be switching many gigs of data per second and yet where is it all going? Not on the IX graphs anyway....

Did someone mention large bandwidths and everyone else felt they needed to use similar figures or is everyone really switching that amount but just hiding it well in private peerings? I know theres some big networks on this list but theres a lot more small ones..

It's all so much posturing, just like the people who claim they need OC768 now or any time in the near future, or the people who sell 1Mbps customers on the fact that their OC192 links are important. If there is more than ~150Gbps of traffic total (counting the traffic only once through the system) going through the US backbones I'd be very surprised. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)