Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:14:34AM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote:

I haven't looked at how the routing advertisements for that /24 appear out in the rest of the world, beyond what's registered at whois.ra.net, but I doubt they've made separate advertisments for each IP# or some subnets that would separate them, and even if they did I doubt such advertisments coul even make it past the route filters of their peers.

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So, how is it that ARIN let them get away with two entries for the same damn server?!?!?!?!?

Why do we continue to be so shocked by this? Do we really expect to find that microsoft has created an elaborate tunnel configuration and is really running 16 totally diverse highly redundant servers which are simply disguised as coming from a contiguous set of ips and a single router in traceroutes? Perhaps the real reason for their failure was a well planned attack based on knowledge purchased from corporate espionage which targetted key portions of their infrastructure in a massive DDoS effort? Much like the discussion of the clue of their network engineers, perhaps we need to stop looking for elaborate explanations and accept a more straight-forward and logical motivation. Incompetence, pure and simple. Have we ever seen anything good networking-related come out of MS yet? Why do we expect things to change now? Besides, if everyone knew what they were doing, the people with a clue would get paid a lot less. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Can this thread please die now? Please? -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)