And any consensus regarding the service? My layman question is how does this provide privacy? The routers still need to know the IP address of the far end point. I would assume that it would be easy to deduce the domain name from the IP address. - R. ________________________________ From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:03 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New DNS Service
On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
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DNS service announced, puts privacy first<https://techxplore.com/news/2018-04-dns-privacy.html> techxplore.com A new service that is offering privacy protection when you browse the web was announced Sunday. The security company Cloudflare is delivering a consumer DNS service called 1.1.1.1.
Not associated with Cloudflare in any way.
Regards,
Roderick.
Mildly interesting but very much old news. The new Cloudflare DNS has been discussed extensively right here on NANOG for the last few days. -Andy
On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:06 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
And any consensus regarding the service? My layman question is how does this provide privacy? The routers still need to know the IP address of the far end point. I would assume that it would be easy to deduce the domain name from the IP address.
- R.
From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@andyring.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:03 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New DNS Service
On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:55 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
DNS service announced, puts privacy first techxplore.com A new service that is offering privacy protection when you browse the web was announced Sunday. The security company Cloudflare is delivering a consumer DNS service called 1.1.1.1.
Not associated with Cloudflare in any way.
Regards,
Roderick.
Mildly interesting but very much old news. The new Cloudflare DNS has been discussed extensively right here on NANOG for the last few days.
-Andy
A couple points, Rod: 1. I believe bottom posting is preferred here. 2. Well, yeah, it’s easy to go “backwards” with DNS/IP addresses. You can do it from any command line interface. That’s not the point here with Cloudflare’s DNS, or other publicly available DNS services. When you default to your ISP’s DNS servers, it’s easy for them to tie DNS requests to a particular customer (you) and monetize (share, sell, etc.) that information. What I believe Cloudflare is saying with their DNS service is “Hey, we won’t do that.” -Andy
On 4/3/18, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
And any consensus regarding the service? My layman question is how does this provide privacy?
You have to look for it & know what you're looking for: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/dns-over-https/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/dns-over-tls/
The routers still need to know the IP address of the far end point. I would assume that it would be easy to deduce the domain name from the IP address.
It depends. If the web site is hosted on.. let's say cloudflare, there could be hundreds of names pointing to the same IP address. Lee
Like a wildcard DNS entry ! -- The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:25, Lee <ler762@gmail.com> wrote:
It depends. If the web site is hosted on.. let's say cloudflare, there could be hundreds of names pointing to the same IP address.
Lee
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