I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system. "Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From:Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> To:Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net> Cc:"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent:Wednesday, 8 December 2010, 18:47:49 Subject:Re: Mastercard problems I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data, and that the fbi is interested in it. -chris
On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:30 PM, andrew.wallace wrote:
I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system.
"Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov
Yikes.. you consider a private company's business to be the financial and payment system of the United States? -j
On 12/8/2010 1:30 PM, James Downs wrote:
On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:30 PM, andrew.wallace wrote:
I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system.
"Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov Yikes.. you consider a private company's business to be the financial and payment system of the United States?
-j
Look at ADP and their finance payment system statistics. VERY large. Understandable for some financial systems to be possibly considered a financial and payment system of the US. Cheers, John Menerick NOTICE: This email and any attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information of NetSuite Inc. and is for the sole use of the intended recipient for the stated purpose. Any improper use or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender; do not review, copy or distribute; and promptly delete or destroy all transmitted information. Please note that all communications and information transmitted through this email system may be monitored by NetSuite or its agents and that all incoming email is automatically scanned by a third party spam and filtering service.
The USSS has jurisdiction over all DDoS (threats to critical infrastructure). Jeff On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system.
"Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov
Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From:Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> To:Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net> Cc:"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent:Wednesday, 8 December 2010, 18:47:49 Subject:Re: Mastercard problems
I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data, and that the fbi is interested in it.
-chris
-- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
So then why is there a cyber command and a cyber group part of homeland security charged with protection of critical infrastructure if critical infrastructure is the responsibility of USSS? Looks like we have too many keystone cops (the AF advertises an operational Cyber Command with nothing really there) who might fall over one another not to mention get in the way of the owners of the infrastructure who probably know it better than the feds. On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
The USSS has jurisdiction over all DDoS (threats to critical infrastructure).
Jeff
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system.
"Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov
Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From:Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> To:Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net> Cc:"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent:Wednesday, 8 December 2010, 18:47:49 Subject:Re: Mastercard problems
I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data, and that the fbi is interested in it.
-chris
-- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
http://www.secretservice.gov/ectf_newyork.shtml Each field office has their own page. Jeff On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:42 PM, TR Shaw <tshaw@oitc.com> wrote:
So then why is there a cyber command and a cyber group part of homeland security charged with protection of critical infrastructure if critical infrastructure is the responsibility of USSS? Looks like we have too many keystone cops (the AF advertises an operational Cyber Command with nothing really there) who might fall over one another not to mention get in the way of the owners of the infrastructure who probably know it better than the feds.
On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
The USSS has jurisdiction over all DDoS (threats to critical infrastructure).
Jeff
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com> wrote:
I would say the attack falls under the jurisdiction of the US secret service since this is an attack on the financial system.
"Today the agency's primary investigative mission is to safeguard the payment and financial systems of the United States." --- secretservice.gov
Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From:Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> To:Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net> Cc:"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent:Wednesday, 8 December 2010, 18:47:49 Subject:Re: Mastercard problems
I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data, and that the fbi is interested in it.
-chris
-- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
-- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
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