You expect? Bill, nothing personal, but your S:N is 0:6 at this point. Not one single op post ever. No meeting attendance. Not one answered technical question. How about earning a few stripes before making demands of NANOG? Srh may be in need of a config change, but she's one of us. Show some respect. /plonk -M --- Martin Hannigan hannigan@verisign.com Verisign, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu <owner-nanog@merit.edu> To: J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cybernothing.org> CC: my network has a second name, it's n-a-n-o-g <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Sun Dec 05 00:09:58 2004 Subject: Re: Banned on NANOG On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, J.D. Falk wrote:
On 12/04/04, Patrick W Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
I also think that makes it nearly impossible to run a good, informative list. Certainly FAR more difficult than just leaving the list completely unmoderated. I do not believe anyone here would argue those points either (besides, obviously, the moderator herself).
...who has been silent during this whole debate, which only serves to feed the flames (and the flamers) as we all make wild guesses regarding motive and intent.
My last email contained an explicit request for a responst. I expect to see one. - billn
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
You expect? Bill, nothing personal, but your S:N is 0:6 at this point. Not one single op post ever. No meeting attendance. Not one answered technical question. How about earning a few stripes before making demands of NANOG? Srh may be in need of a config change, but she's one of us. Show some respect.
Actually, that's incorrect. I've been in the underside of network ops for years. Just because you've personally never seen me, just as I was unaware of who Susan was, makes neither of us nonexistant. I'm as much a user of this list as you are, and if you look carefully, you'll see some posts with my name in them, because I was having an offlist conversation with someone who posted a chunk of it back. I can appreciate what you're saying, but on the same token, this list is as much a tool to do my job as any code or policy I've ever written. To paraphrase the Vix, what I've said doesn't matter, it's what I'm saying that's important. If you'd *prefer* I keep my cantankerous carcass in the public light, I guess I could make some posts. But given my posting habits and bad people skills, I think it's best that I don't, and I'm perfectly fine to lurk. Those on the list who do know me and work/have worked with me would probably agree with me. As I said before, I'm not a routing engineer, nor representative of a large provider. I do, however, work for a reasonably large network traffic consumer and have to be aware of external conditions and issues, as well as developing technologies, legislation, and trends. I have no idea what you do, other than that shiny domain on your email address, but I'm not going to make the assumption that you're useless and have no place here, simply because I don't know you personally. I don't think my expectation for a response for adjustment of the charter to make moderation, well, moderate, is unreasonable. We're all professionals here, aren't we? As for my S/N ratio, not a single post I've made yet has been offtopic, and apply directly to the lists functional operation, if you want to nitpick. I just want it fixed before all the clue leaks out. - billn
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