The UN is fine with me... No matter what happens...the following can not continue... 1. One person at the InterNIC playing Jesus Christ with the IP addresses... 2. One person at IANA playing God the Father with IP addresses... 3. Network Solutions, Inc. (and SAIC) competing against ISPs... 4. Selected ISPs being given huge blocks of the address space... There has to be a democratic process...of the people, for the people and by the people... ...not just for John, Paul, George and Ringo....even if John is the Pope... Jim Fleming Naperville, IL P.S. Where has IANA documented the following allocation....??? $ whois NETBLK-ATHOME @Home (NETBLK-ATHOME) 385 Ravendale Drive Mountain View, CA 94043 Netname: ATHOME Netblock: 24.0.0.0 - 24.3.255.0 Coordinator: Mockapetris, Paul V. (PM1) pvm@HOME.NET 415-944-7200 415-944-7221 (FAX) 415-944-8501 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: TELLER.HOME.NET 206.15.25.1 NS1.GEO.NET 192.231.42.2 Record last updated on 24-Jan-96. The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. ---------- From: bmanning@ISI.EDU[SMTP:bmanning@ISI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 1996 10:51 PM To: Jim Fleming Cc: dorian@cic.net; kovar@NDA.COM; com-priv@psi.com; jfbb@atmnet.net; nanog@merit.edu; nathan@netrail.net; nic-registry@internic.net Subject: Re: Allocation of IP Addresses
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Jim Fleming Naperville, IL
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ There always will be disadvantages of being small. This is true in every market.
Do you truly believe there is no way to avoid the forced renumbering problem for the smaller ISPs?
There is no way to avoid renumbering. Every other plausible proposal I've seen have been renumbering under a different guise.
-dorian
Jim, old buddy, you forgot the European Union delegates, South America, Africa, CIS, China and the AP nations. Better punt the whole darn thing right to the UN right now. Since when did the global internet get to be regulated by the US government? -- --bill
Here's an interesting one: crash % whois 166.128.0.0 GTE Telecommunications Products and Services (NETBLK-CDPD-B) 245 Perimeter Center Parkway Atlanta, GA 30346 Netname: NETBLK-CDPD-B Netblock: 166.128.0.0 - 166.255.0.0 Coordinator: Brenner, Robert (RB30) ROBERT.W.BRENNER@GTE.SPRINT.COM (404) 391-8450 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NIC.CDPD.NET 198.41.0.20 NETMAN1.NETSOL.COM 192.153.247.11 Record last updated on 18-May-95. The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. Scott
the phone system is global as well, i guess the us government should not be allowed to govern it? i'd say your safe until a smart senate staffer actually sits down to explain some of the issues to his boss who picks up the pole and starts to wave the flag... Jeff Young young@mci.net
No matter what happens...the following can not continue...
1. One person at the InterNIC playing Jesus Christ with the IP addresses... 2. One person at IANA playing God the Father with IP addresses... 3. Network Solutions, Inc. (and SAIC) competing against ISPs... 4. Selected ISPs being given huge blocks of the address space...
There has to be a democratic process...of the people, for the people and by the people...
...not just for John, Paul, George and Ringo....even if John is the Pope...
Jim Fleming Naperville, IL
P.S. Where has IANA documented the following allocation....???
$ whois NETBLK-ATHOME @Home (NETBLK-ATHOME) 385 Ravendale Drive Mountain View, CA 94043
Netname: ATHOME Netblock: 24.0.0.0 - 24.3.255.0
Coordinator: Mockapetris, Paul V. (PM1) pvm@HOME.NET 415-944-7200 415-944-7221 (FAX) 415-944-8501
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
TELLER.HOME.NET 206.15.25.1 NS1.GEO.NET 192.231.42.2
Record last updated on 24-Jan-96.
The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
---------- From: bmanning@ISI.EDU[SMTP:bmanning@ISI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 1996 10:51 PM To: Jim Fleming Cc: dorian@cic.net; kovar@NDA.COM; com-priv@psi.com; jfbb@atmnet.net; nanog@merit.edu; nathan@netrail.net; nic-registry@internic.net Subject: Re: Allocation of IP Addresses
Here are some people that might be interested in these issues...
Jim Fleming Naperville, IL
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ There always will be disadvantages of being small. This is true in every market.
Do you truly believe there is no way to avoid the forced renumbering problem for the smaller ISPs?
There is no way to avoid renumbering. Every other plausible proposal I've seen have been renumbering under a different guise.
-dorian
Jim, old buddy, you forgot the European Union delegates, South America, Africa, CIS, China and the AP nations. Better punt the whole darn thing right to the UN right now. Since when did the global internet get to be regulated by the US government?
-- --bill
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