At 03:04 PM 11/30/98 -0700, you wrote:

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Does anybody know if verio actually has ANY backbone whatsoever? It appears that they just resell, and they dont even resell just 1 network, they resell a different backbone provider depending on what town they are in?

I do know that Verio came in and bought out Spacelab.net, which was our provider. The color & designs of the invoices changed. All the staff stayed the same, none of my favorite engineers were lost. Verio might be building their "network" on top of existing local networks and then hauling this traffic to their peering providers. Take a look at: http://www.verio.com/netops/netmap.html.

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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Rishi Singh wrote: -| Traceroute from one of my boxes with connectivity to VERIO (NYC). -| -| [techno@amber techno]$ traceroute sprintlink.net -| traceroute to sprintlink.net (199.0.232.90), 30 hops max, 40 byte

Yes, Verio does have their own backbone. -Jeremiah Johnson Verio packets

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-| 1 209.227.6.17 (209.227.6.17) 2.077 ms 2.020 ms 2.101 ms -| 2 209.227.17.73 (209.227.17.73) 4.778 ms 4.763 ms 4.705 ms -| 3 agis-mxol.newyork2.agis.net (206.185.152.29) 23.676 ms 38.185 ms

<o> Pings are free. Send a ping to someone today. <o> Make a new friend :-). Check on your neighbor <o> to see how they're doing. Say hi to someone <o> remote :-). <o> Rishi M. Singh - Sysadmin & Network "Cleaner"