Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?
All, Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.” J~
I'm fairly certain I was told if I was in bell Colo they would be passing me Ethernet without a CPE/nid. I'm also pretty sure they said they normally do that where possible in Colo. But I could be wrong. My last discussions were with wholesale. --john On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 7:26 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
All,
Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.”
J~
I've requested many times 1G/10G EI circuits without CPEs and even had Settlement based peering from AS577 delivered on an EVC on a CPE-less ENNI so they definitely be flexible. This was with Bell wholesale thought. If you deal with retail, your experience may vary... On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 19:25 JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
All,
Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.”
J~
+1 to using their wholesale platform to accomplish this, either via an account rep or WSS portal. On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 10:04 PM Eric Dugas <edugas@unknowndevice.ca> wrote:
I've requested many times 1G/10G EI circuits without CPEs and even had Settlement based peering from AS577 delivered on an EVC on a CPE-less ENNI so they definitely be flexible.
This was with Bell wholesale thought. If you deal with retail, your experience may vary...
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 19:25 JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
All,
Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.”
J~
We used to have a GigE transit port terminated on CO connecting links inside one of their COs long ago. No CPE. They may have changed their policy since then. At 07:25 PM 08/09/2018, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
All,
Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I canât seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than âitâs never been done beforeâ and âwe need remote testing capabilities.â
J~
-- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409
Depending on the Colo... It is generally a fiber for everyone. But Bell being Bell (wink wink) I'm sure they made this extra <beep> and <beep> for no reason at all. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 09/09/18 11:04, Clayton Zekelman wrote:
We used to have a GigE transit port terminated on CO connecting links inside one of their COs long ago. No CPE. They may have changed their policy since then.
At 07:25 PM 08/09/2018, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
All,
Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been done before†and “we need remote testing capabilities.â€
J~
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John Hurley