UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM cards in the US with static IPs. Thanks, Ryan
Google Fi On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter <ryan.g@atwgpc.net> wrote:
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM cards in the US with static IPs.
Thanks, Ryan
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
Are the Opengear boxes good gear? We currently have some boxes with a high failure rate and I’ve been on the hunt for something we can leverage globally that support LTE. J~
On Jul 31, 2019, at 21:19, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Google Fi
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter <ryan.g@atwgpc.net> wrote: Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM cards in the US with static IPs.
Thanks, Ryan -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
I’ve used them in both cellular and non-cellular capacities and been pleased with them. AFAIK they can be setup as an IPSec terminator for clients and block other traffic, which lowers the attack surface a bit. I’ve also seen people try to use “all the features”, set them up as DNS/DHCP/etc and attach them to multiple networks because they are “a linux box”. Its not great. Treat them as a console server and you’ll be happy. Treat them as a general purpose linux “server” and you’ll be disappointed at the lack of flexibility in doing things. I just used swisscom in Zurich. I would expect Orange would probably cover both UK and NL, but don’t know for sure. Haven’t had to do anything in Asia recently.
On Jul 31, 2019, at 9:53 PM, JASON BOTHE via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
Are the Opengear boxes good gear? We currently have some boxes with a high failure rate and I’ve been on the hunt for something we can leverage globally that support LTE.
J~
On Jul 31, 2019, at 21:19, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net <mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote:
Google Fi
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter <ryan.g@atwgpc.net <mailto:ryan.g@atwgpc.net>> wrote: Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM cards in the US with static IPs.
Thanks, Ryan -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
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On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
Google Fi
Are you suggesting Fi because of: "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free." Ergo, relative to the countries stated, permanently roaming? I'd love to know if you've found that reliable - it seems too good to be true. -- Tom
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus in many countries you can pick from multiple networks). If you have an Android phone it may switch to 3UK/Hutch's global network, though I have less experience with that. Matt
On Aug 1, 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net> wrote:
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: Google Fi
Are you suggesting Fi because of:
"When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
Ergo, relative to the countries stated, permanently roaming?
I'd love to know if you've found that reliable - it seems too good to be true.
-- Tom
I've got a line on my Fi account that almost exclusively roams in the UK. Only been on-net in the US a few times and they've never complained about excessive roaming. It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently. On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:04 AM Matt Corallo <nanog@as397444.net> wrote:
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus in many countries you can pick from multiple networks).
If you have an Android phone it may switch to 3UK/Hutch's global network, though I have less experience with that.
Matt
On Aug 1, 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net> wrote:
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: Google Fi
Are you suggesting Fi because of:
"When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
Ergo, relative to the countries stated, permanently roaming?
I'd love to know if you've found that reliable - it seems too good to be true.
-- Tom
On 01/08/2019 15:14, Nick Olsen wrote:
It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently.
To the this point, I've a Three contract here (UK). It has slightly been frustrating recently, I'll admit. It does look like they're aiming to address that, however. More re-farming 3G frequencies to 4G, additional bands: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/08/three-uk-in-l-band-rollout-as-... -- Tom
According to https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/7/12/12159210/google-project-fi... , Project/Google Fi added 3/Hutchinson as a native carrier in the UK in the same way that Sprint/T-Mob/US Cellular networks provide service in the US. One of Hutch's subsidiaries probably provides service almost everywhere in the world (except, oddly, Mexico, last I looked). But whether there's a Google/Hutch tie-in in that market another matter. A Fi data SIM should work in any Google-supported market though. Checking the bands used by the local markets (and/or the prospective device) might be a good idea. Think I've had Fi for 4 years now. Stepping off the plane and your phone Just Works is kind of magical. You can only activate a voice SIM in a Fi-supported phone - but the SIM will work if transferred to another phone once activated, you just may have fewer radios & lose functionality (like transparent in-call handoff between multiple carriers). On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:03 AM Matt Corallo <nanog@as397444.net> wrote:
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus in many countries you can pick from multiple networks).
If you have an Android phone it may switch to 3UK/Hutch's global network, though I have less experience with that.
Matt
On Aug 1, 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net> wrote:
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: Google Fi
Are you suggesting Fi because of:
"When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
Ergo, relative to the countries stated, permanently roaming?
I'd love to know if you've found that reliable - it seems too good to be true.
-- Tom
Tom
On 1 Aug 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net> wrote:
Are you suggesting Fi because of:
"When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
Ergo, relative to the countries stated, permanently roaming?
I'd love to know if you've found that reliable - it seems too good to be true.
That is is how I use Fi and it just works - the only place it didn’t was Beirut. You used to be able to have 9 sims on the account but they have just reduced it to 4 for new accounts and those who were not already using more than 4. If you had more than 4 they are grandfathered in. f
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 02:36, Ryan Gelobter <ryan.g@atwgpc.net> wrote:
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM cards in the US with static IPs.
Thanks, Ryan
Hi Ryan, Vodafone GDSP (Global Data Service Platform) might be what you're looking for "We offer 4G LTE roaming in over 100 countries." - I've been looking into this recently but can't find a list of those countries publically available. I think you'd need to approach Vodafone directly as an interested customer/party, and I'm working via a VAR so no direct channel. Cheers, James.
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