RE: Agenda for next NANOG
Looking at it strictly from a technical level, there is little difference between a private interconnect and the connection between an ISP and their upstream provider if they have one. (we might consider debating this assumption especially in terms of scale :-)) One might as well ask if ISPs are willing to publicly display their packet drop rates where they buy connectivity from their upstream providers at the same time one is asking MCI, Sprint, UUNet and ANS for their interconnection drop statistics. Might it be easier for a customer of an ISP to get this kind of data from their ISP? Or not? Cheers, peter
---------- I wonder if this is something involved parties (MCI, Sprint, UUNet and ANS) are willing to talk about, given that I've noticed some degradation on performance across some of these private interconnects already.. (and it's only been couple of months since they came online!) I understand that these are private arrangements between involved parties, but given their importance, it would be a great service to the community if the involved parties could share some information. -dorian
Looking at it strictly from a technical level, there is little difference between a private interconnect and the connection between an ISP and their upstream provider if they have one. (we might consider debating this assumption especially in terms of scale :-))
Actually, the traditional point2point link between any two ISPs is a private interconnect. It does not have to be a provider/subscriber relationship. --bill
Actually, the traditional point2point link between any two ISPs is a private interconnect. It does not have to be a provider/subscriber relationship.
True, but let's look at the goal and not at the implementation. If customers actively requested that their providers make available interconnect statistics, and made such statistics a contractual requirement, perhaps this would happen more often. Of course, merely saying that is not quite so simple, since there are folks who have made (or claimed to have made) such requests in the past. Nevertheless, the current economic model does not expressly prohibit this kind of thing. --jhawk
Looking at it strictly from a technical level, there is little difference between a private interconnect and the connection between an ISP and their upstream provider if they have one. (we might consider debating this assumption especially in terms of scale :-))
Actually, the traditional point2point link between any two ISPs is a private interconnect. It does not have to be a provider/subscriber relationship.
--bill
Except for what one does to/with the routes learned via the BGP session involved in such an interconnect... With a "private interconnect" between "peers" one does not redistribute routes heard from one peer to another; with a "upstream" - "downstream" relationship, one does redistribute routes hears from one peer to another, thus giving the "downstream" transit to those other peers. I'm clarifying for others; I know you understand the difference :) Avi
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Avi Freedman -
bmanning＠isi.edu -
John Hawkinson -
Peter Ford