* To: isp-colo@isp-colo.com * Subject: Legal Recourse * From: "Nick Catalano" <nick@nozone.net> * Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:07:46 -0600 Recently my personal system has been attacked by someone from the IRC channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple instances of showing/providing pornography to minors as well as defamation of character/slander as well as numerous other civil and criminal items have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's time to look into fighting back. Other than to warn others of the pending danger of dealing with the immature people found within that channel, I would love to know what all legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer but I am not quite ready to sue. I fully expect to get flamed by this, of course. Yet I also expect most of those who flame me to be from Nanog. I don't care how you play the game, but if you try to play me you can burn in hell. Strong words from a person who isn't going to take it anymore. - Nick Catalano nick@nozone.net n|Catalano Ventures :: The Next Generation is Coming Soon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Rrrrr, leave this along will you... Nick is 14 years old and his word can't be believed that much (see archives on that same isp-colo). To me his post was no more then a bad joke... On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Paul Revere wrote:
* To: isp-colo@isp-colo.com * Subject: Legal Recourse * From: "Nick Catalano" <nick@nozone.net> * Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:07:46 -0600
Recently my personal system has been attacked by someone from the IRC channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple instances of showing/providing pornography to minors as well as defamation of character/slander as well as numerous other civil and criminal items have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's time to look into fighting back.
Other than to warn others of the pending danger of dealing with the immature people found within that channel, I would love to know what all legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer but I am not quite ready to sue.
I fully expect to get flamed by this, of course. Yet I also expect most of those who flame me to be from Nanog. I don't care how you play the game, but if you try to play me you can burn in hell. Strong words from a person who isn't going to take it anymore.
- Nick Catalano nick@nozone.net n|Catalano Ventures :: The Next Generation is Coming Soon
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Ahh come on Will, he's gotta be at least 15 by now. ;-) -Jim P.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of william@elan.net Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:15 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: NANOG on Trial
Rrrrr, leave this along will you... Nick is 14 years old and his word can't be believed that much (see archives on that same isp-colo). To me his post was no more then a bad joke...
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Paul Revere wrote:
* To: isp-colo@isp-colo.com * Subject: Legal Recourse * From: "Nick Catalano" <nick@nozone.net> * Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:07:46 -0600
Recently my personal system has been attacked by someone from the IRC channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple instances of showing/providing pornography to minors as well as defamation of character/slander as well as numerous other civil and criminal items have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's time to look into fighting back.
Other than to warn others of the pending danger of dealing with the immature people found within that channel, I would love to know what all legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer but I am not quite ready to sue.
I fully expect to get flamed by this, of course. Yet I also expect most of those who flame me to be from Nanog. I don't care how you play the game, but if you try to play me you can burn in hell. Strong words from a person who isn't going to take it anymore.
- Nick Catalano nick@nozone.net n|Catalano Ventures :: The Next Generation is Coming Soon
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Will someone from Road Runner please contact me? You have a customer that is spamming and using my email address for the return address. I'm getting thousands of MAILER-DAEMON bounce messages per day. Thanks, Joe -- Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications 994 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 Phone: 650-213-1302 Cell: 650-207-0372 Fax: 650-969-2124
Recently my personal system has been attacked by someone from the IRC channel #nanog on EFNet. This along with multiple instances of showing/providing pornography to minors as well as defamation of character/slander as well as numerous other civil and criminal items have really plagued my past 3 months. I think it's time to look into fighting back.
Other than to warn others of the pending danger of dealing with the immature people found within that channel, I would love to know what all legal recourse I have in this matter. I have a lawyer but I am not quite ready to sue.
Why Nick Catalano was banned from #nanog: <NickCatal> dgold: Dsl works via ATM, thats layer3 <NickCatal> it's layer4 in the way that it uses POS instead of ATM standard.. <NickCatal> FDDI can only support up to, maby, T1 speed.. <NickCatal> t1 = 1464kbps.. <NickCatal> I always thought FDDI was frame relay.. <NickCatal> OC-192 over POIP is as dumb as you get it.. <NickCatal> if this business works out.. the first thing I am doing is having my engineers give me some way of making a layer 4 nap.. even if it's pure bullshit.. and then I am presening it @ Nanog <gavroche> DS3 IS NOT FIBER || <NickCatal> gavroche: of course it is.. <NickCatal> UUNet has the world's worst designed network <NickCatal> I go on the UUNet backbone, and I'm like.. where's the core!? <NickCatal> I think we can make money offering gig-e at the cost of a T1 <NickCatal> naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting looks good on Leno <NickCatal> Cogent and InterNAP can be mixed and merged.. Cogent didn't fail. Cogent has almost no expenses. it costs next to nothing to be Cogent.. <NickCatal> they own their network.. they own their equipment.. they don't pay for it.. there are no leased lines.. <NickCatal> they most likely don't pay for transit.. <NickCatal> I am about to call my lawyer about this and file lawsuits against 95% of the #nanog room to find out who has taken advantage of my system <NickCatal> ...also with logs of everything said in #nanog I have over 50 cases of showing pornography to a minor.. 'nuf said... -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
<NickCatal> I think we can make money offering gig-e at the cost of a T1
I'll take two :-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: <snipped>
<NickCatal> naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting looks good on Leno
Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y" <end sarcasm> --conradr
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Conrad A. Rockenhaus wrote:
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<NickCatal> naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting looks good on Leno
Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
<end sarcasm>
Gotta admit it's an unusual choice for a "public face" though. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Conrad, Monday, April 8, 2002, 2:55:01 PM, you wrote:
<NickCatal> naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting looks good on Leno
CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y" It's generation "K-12": http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg but to make this more OT, here are my woes of the moment: http://nts.wustl.edu/~mrtg/brook0.20.html Thanks, David mailto:davidu@everydns.net
On 8 Apr 2002, at 15:05, David Ulevitch wrote:
Hello Conrad,
Monday, April 8, 2002, 2:55:01 PM, you wrote:
<NickCatal> naa.. my job in the new company is to make ideas and provide a public face to the company.. a 14 year old selling enterprise hosting looks good on Leno
CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
It's generation "K-12": http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg
C|N>K Oh thats GOOD...... -- MN
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 n5tkn@nccinternet.com wrote:
CAR> Come on now, he's one of those 14 year old wonder kids that will change CAR> the way we think of the Internet, go Generation "Y"
It's generation "K-12": http://latency.net/~asr/wcom.jpg
C|N>K Oh thats GOOD......
But... but... I've actually visited UUNET's NOC and seen kids that age working at the consoles. ;) CSO? -- Steve Sobol, CTO (Server Guru, Network Janitor and Head Geek) JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, OH 888.480.4NET http://JustThe.net Need a programmer? Resume going up at http://sourceforge.net/users/webdude216
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:26:18 -0400 From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
(extensive snipping)
<NickCatal> FDDI can only support up to, maby, T1 speed.. <NickCatal> t1 = 1464kbps.. <NickCatal> I always thought FDDI was frame relay..
Oh... my... goodness... these almost make my experiences dealing with <provider names censored to protect the guilty> seem pleasant.
'nuf said...
Now, Richard... you could have been more helpful... and told him how to get free bandwidth by using wireless to connect to a NAP, thus making a Tier 1 backbone. ;-) Personally, I think that having a kitten sell enterprise connectivity would be much more cool... -- Eddy Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita/(Inter)national Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.
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