Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> wrote:
I prefer to pick a random number, then consult my Magic 8-Ball with the question "Is this customer paying enough money?". If the answer is no, I raise their bill by 10Mbit and try again.
Sometimes the billing department gets a little backed up when the results are hazy, but other than that it's a great system.
ISPs using a magic 8-ball based billing system may find that customizing the 8-ball is not only feasible but may make for better profit margins when the 8-ball is properly tuned: http://8ball.ofb.net/howto.html i might be persuaded to make a presentation on this at the next nanog meeting. cheers, richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:21:12PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote:
Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> wrote:
I prefer to pick a random number, then consult my Magic 8-Ball with the question "Is this customer paying enough money?". If the answer is no, I raise their bill by 10Mbit and try again.
Sometimes the billing department gets a little backed up when the results are hazy, but other than that it's a great system.
ISPs using a magic 8-ball based billing system may find that customizing the 8-ball is not only feasible but may make for better profit margins when the 8-ball is properly tuned:
Ah, but does "Chpt 11 appears imminent" fit? -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Can someone verify something for me? Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net why would the www one resolve? Geo.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Geo. Sent: February 27, 2003 2:21 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Root server error
Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?
You have www.stemtostern.com registered as a name server, so there's a glue record for it in the GTLD servers. Vivien -- Vivien M. vivienm@dyndns.org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:21:20PM -0500, Geo. wrote:
Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?
It's stale glue; i.e., there's a host (nameserver) record for this address. Delete or modify the record. jazz% whois www.stemtostern.com Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Server Name: WWW.STEMTOSTERN.COM IP Address: 216.144.36.50 Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com jazz% dig @b.gtld-servers.net www.stemtostern.com +norec ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0s20021217 <<>> @b.gtld-servers.net www.stemtostern.com +norec ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57571 ;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.stemtostern.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.stemtostern.com. 172800 IN A 216.144.36.50 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: stemtostern.com. 172800 IN NS NS1.NLS.NET. stemtostern.com. 172800 IN NS NS2.NLS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: NS1.NLS.NET. 172800 IN A 216.144.0.10 NS2.NLS.NET. 172800 IN A 216.144.0.11 ;; Query time: 17 msec ;; SERVER: 192.33.14.30#53(b.gtld-servers.net) ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 27 11:59:29 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128 -- "Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same..." (Sleater-Kinney - "Combat Rock")
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Geo. wrote:
Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?
If an A (or AAAA) record appears in the com or net zones, it's because it is referenced at least one NS record also in the com and net zones, i.e., it appears on the right side of an NS record. This is the case with www.stemtostern.com. While it is not a name server for stemtostern.com, it is a name server for harbormarinetowing.com; please see the dig output below. Matt -- Matt Larson <mlarson@verisign.com> VeriSign Global Registry Services ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> +norec @a.gtld-servers.net ns harbormarinetowing.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41821 ;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;harbormarinetowing.com. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: harbormarinetowing.com. 172800 IN NS ns.nls.net. harbormarinetowing.com. 172800 IN NS www.stemtostern.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.nls.net. 172800 IN A 216.144.8.10 www.stemtostern.com. 172800 IN A 216.144.36.50 ;; Query time: 24 msec ;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(a.gtld-servers.net) ;; WHEN: Thu Feb 27 15:32:09 2003 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 126
Matt Larson wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Geo. wrote:
Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?
If an A (or AAAA) record appears in the com or net zones, it's because it is referenced at least one NS record also in the com and net zones, i.e., it appears on the right side of an NS record.
Is it _finally_ possible then, to get a AAAA record as glue into the com/net/org zones?
This is the case with www.stemtostern.com. While it is not a name server for stemtostern.com, it is a name server for harbormarinetowing.com; please see the dig output below.
Matt -- Matt Larson <mlarson@verisign.com> VeriSign Global Registry Services
Greets, Jeroen
Hi, Jeroen. On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Jeroen Massar wrote:
Is it _finally_ possible then, to get a AAAA record as glue into the com/net/org zones?
Yes, since RRP 2.0 (the protocol used by ICANN-accredited registrars to register com/net domains with VeriSign Global Registry Services) was deployed in mid-May, 2002. Since the registrars are the customers of VeriSign GRS, we communicated this new feature to them directly and not to the general public. (Although researching this topic has made it clear to me that we've got to get something about it on our web site, which I'm working on.) It appears that the registrars have not widely publicized the availability of this feature. Also, not all registrars support registration of AAAA records. For example, the Network Solutions registrar does not, but PSI Japan and eNom do. That's definitely not a complete list: those are the only registrars that I have definitive information on. The only way to know for sure about your registrar is to ask them. Please let me know if I can be answer any other questions or otherwise help you out. Kind regards, Matt -- Matt Larson <mlarson@verisign.com> VeriSign Global Registry Services
Perhaps it is GLUE for an NS record. Owen --On Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:21 PM -0500 "Geo." <georger@getinfo.net> wrote:
Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?
Geo.
In the immortal words of Geo. (georger@getinfo.net):
Can someone verify something for me? Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net why would the www one resolve?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596001584/ Sheesh. ------------------------------------------------------------<memory@blank.org> "This is UNIX. Stop acting so helpless." <http://blank.org/memory/>----------------------------------------------------
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671723650/qid=1046567734/sr=2-1/ref= sr_2_1/002-9383411-3569615 right back at cha.. Geo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan J. Mehl" <memory-nanog@blank.org> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Root server error
In the immortal words of Geo. (georger@getinfo.net):
Can someone verify something for me? Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the i.gtld-servers.net why would the www one resolve?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596001584/
Sheesh.
------------------------------------------------------------<memory@blank.
org>
"This is UNIX. Stop acting so helpless."
<http://blank.org/memory/>-------------------------------------------------- --
G> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:15:56 -0500 G> From: Geo. G> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671723650/qid=1046567734/sr=2-1/ref=... G> right back at cha.. At the risk of turning this into a "you need to read this"-fest: http://www.nanog.org/faq/ helps clarify the scope and charter of this list. People here generally [try to] read RFCs and such before posting... and RFC 1034 and 1035 explain glue rather well. Eddy -- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.
participants (10)
-
E.B. Dreger -
Geo. -
Jeroen Massar -
Matt Larson -
Nathan J. Mehl -
Owen DeLong -
Richard A Steenbergen -
Richard Welty -
Vivien M. -
william+nanog＠hq.dreamhost.com