Hi, Happy new year everyone. I know ARIN is very strict with IP transfers at least from ARIN to ARIN. I know they require very detailed information. Curious if someone in the list know if they are equally strict when issuing an ASN and/or have a recent experience on the matter ? Thanks you -- Thomas BRENAC https://www.brenac.eu +33686263575 Certified IPv4 Broker by RIPE NCC, APNIC and LACNIC The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. This message has been sent as a part of discussion between BRENAC EURL and the addressee whose name is specified above. Should you receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if you informed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we also ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forward it or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. We puts the security of the client at a high priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the message is error and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot be ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could be infected, intercepted, or corrupted. Therefore, the recipient should check the email for threats with proper software, as the sender does not accept liability for any damage inflicted by viewing the content of this email. The views and opinions included in this email belong to their author and do not necessarily mirror the views and opinions of the company. Our employees are obliged not to make any defamatory clauses, infringe, or authorize infringement of any legal right. Therefore, the company will not take any liability for such statements included in emails. In case of any damages or other liabilities arising, employees are fully responsible for the content of their emails.
Have you looked here [1]? They even produced a short video telling you how to request ASN resources. [1] https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/asn/ On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:43 PM thomas brenac via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
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Happy new year everyone.
I know ARIN is very strict with IP transfers at least from ARIN to ARIN. I know they require very detailed information. Curious if someone in the list know if they are equally strict when issuing an ASN and/or have a recent experience on the matter ?
Thanks you
-- Thomas BRENAC https://www.brenac.eu +33686263575
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If by "strict" you mean that ARIN requires that you follow their published rules, then yes, I suppose this could be called strict. But that's not a bad thing. Getting an ASN only requires that you prove you have contracts with two BGP-capable upstream providers. There is no shortage of ASNs. Other transfers are straigtforward within ARINs rules, one of which being that you're entitled to the space you're trying to transfer, and the other that the recipient qualifies under ARIN's usage requirements. -mel ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of thomas brenac via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 11:41 AM To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Getting an ASN in ARIN Hi, Happy new year everyone. I know ARIN is very strict with IP transfers at least from ARIN to ARIN. I know they require very detailed information. Curious if someone in the list know if they are equally strict when issuing an ASN and/or have a recent experience on the matter ? Thanks you -- Thomas BRENAC https://www.brenac.eu +33686263575 Certified IPv4 Broker by RIPE NCC, APNIC and LACNIC The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. This message has been sent as a part of discussion between BRENAC EURL and the addressee whose name is specified above. Should you receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if you informed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we also ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forward it or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. We puts the security of the client at a high priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the message is error and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot be ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could be infected, intercepted, or corrupted. Therefore, the recipient should check the email for threats with proper software, as the sender does not accept liability for any damage inflicted by viewing the content of this email. The views and opinions included in this email belong to their author and do not necessarily mirror the views and opinions of the company. Our employees are obliged not to make any defamatory clauses, infringe, or authorize infringement of any legal right. Therefore, the company will not take any liability for such statements included in emails. In case of any damages or other liabilities arising, employees are fully responsible for the content of their emails.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:42 AM thomas brenac via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
I know ARIN is very strict with IP transfers at least from ARIN to ARIN. I know they require very detailed information. Curious if someone in the list know if they are equally strict when issuing an ASN and/or have a recent experience on the matter ?
Happy new year Thomas, If you're multihomed, getting an AS number from ARIN is trivial. Fill out the form, indicate the at least IPv4 /24 or IPv6 /48 you intend to announce via BGP, provide redacted billing statements from two ISPs and you're golden. If you're not multihomed, buy a $20 virtual server from Vultr or a comparable cloud service, read about the BGP service they provide (BGP via two providers is what will make you multihomed), set up a VPN from there back to your site and then see multihomed above. If you don't have at least a /24 or /48... why do you want an AS number? How would you use it? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us <https://bill.herrin.us/> https://bill.herrin.us/
On 1/6/20 1:47 PM, William Herrin wrote:
If you're not multihomed, buy a $20 virtual server from Vultr or a comparable cloud service, read about the BGP service they provide (BGP via two providers is what will make you multihomed), set up a VPN from there back to your site and then see multihomed above.
"Distinct routing policy", while a bit less clear-cut than being multi-homed, is another valid reason to get an ASN and more flexible if you're in a situation where you might be concerned about "strictness". It's mostly applicable to ISPs rather than end-users, I would suppose. However, it generally suffices to say "I am a network operator and set my own routing policies, have my own PI space under those grounds, and my single upstream provider prefers that I have a public ASN if I want to run BGP with them which I wish to do as part of setting my network's routing policies." As has been pointed out, there's not a shortage of ASNs like there is IPv4. The policy surrounding assignment of ASNs is mostly to make sure that people who are getting one actually have a use for it and know what they intend to do with it. -- Brandon Martin
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