Eric Germann <ekgermann@cctec.com>,Internet writes: Given that Cisco built their routers for them, and then they pissed off Cisco to the point where they didn't renew there code license for IOS in there hubs because of their anti Cisco marketing campaign. It was a limited 4000 Router. Only two slots instead of three. Cabletron is now pushing their new SmartSwitch Router that they acquired when they purchased YAGO systems. They claim its an ISP backbone quality router (honest its on their web page). But I don't believe it does BGP4. Cabletron has a bad rap with consultants. Don't ever try to partner with them and walk them in someplace. They are the borg, you will be assimilated. Hey, you haven't spoken with your local Cabletron rep lately; Cabletron is pushing channel relationships again. Now that I ragged on em, they do have solid stuff. I have one client who has had their MMAC hubs up and running for about 8 years with narry a hiccup. And these are in rotten basements. You are right but is it Year 2000 compliant? Thanks, Joe Kucic
At 10:10 PM 5/7/98 -0400, jkucic@kpmg.com wrote:
Eric Germann <ekgermann@cctec.com>,Internet writes:
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Hey, you haven't spoken with your local Cabletron rep lately; Cabletron is pushing channel relationships again.
The abuser says "I won't do it again, I swear". Yeah right.
Now that I ragged on em, they do have solid stuff. I have one client who has had their MMAC hubs up and running for about 8 years with narry a hiccup. And these are in rotten basements.
You are right but is it Year 2000 compliant?
Do we really care if an unmanaged hub is Y2K compliant? As long as it forwards packets.... BTW, saw a great ad the other day from Nortel on y2k compliance on T1 concentrators. Anyone have any idea why it matters in a mux, if it isn't managed? Eric
Thanks,
Joe Kucic
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 11:42:40AM -0400, Eric Germann put this into my mailbox:
You are right but is it Year 2000 compliant?
Do we really care if an unmanaged hub is Y2K compliant? As long as it forwards packets....
BTW, saw a great ad the other day from Nortel on y2k compliance on T1 concentrators. Anyone have any idea why it matters in a mux, if it isn't managed?
This is getting way off topic, but I suspect that since Joe Public is now so paranoid because of these fearmongering consultants that he insists his toaster (two holes, heating element, warms up bread) be y2k compliant. New buzzword, and all that. I suspect that certain companies are taking the logical approach, and branding products that don't actually have any date-dependent code 'y2k compliant', even when it doesn't matter one bit. My UPSs and hard drives are all y2k compliant. So is my shaver, toothbrush, alarm clock, power screwdriver, and ham sandwich. -dalvenjah -- Dalvenjah FoxFire (aka Sven Nielsen) His warm, strong hands caressed her Founder, the DALnet IRC Network body gently. Just then, Fabio walked by, eating a cheeseburger smeared with margarine. e-mail: dalvenjah@dal.net WWW: http://www.dal.net/~dalvenjah/ whois: SN90 Try DALnet! http://www.dal.net/
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Dalvenjah FoxFire wrote:
My UPSs and hard drives are all y2k compliant. So is my shaver, toothbrush, alarm clock, power screwdriver, and ham sandwich.
I'd be careful about jumping to conclusions like that if I were you. Don't wait until after the Year 2000 to eat that ham sandwich or you might find it a most unpleasant experience! ;-) -- Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Michael Dillon wrote:
My UPSs and hard drives are all y2k compliant. So is my shaver, toothbrush, alarm clock, power screwdriver, and ham sandwich.
I'd be careful about jumping to conclusions like that if I were you. Don't wait until after the Year 2000 to eat that ham sandwich or you might find it a most unpleasant experience! ;-)
Especially when you find out that your APC UPS just shut down because it has a Y2k problem. Yes, thats right, certain UPS's with date code in them will fail Jan 1 2000. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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