I have a lot of leads for this at www.dnso.net From there you can get to the ORSC sites and a few others. Examples of how to build your own root-zone files are at http://files.dnso.net along with a few papers MHSC has submitted to ICANN/WG-C and other places. Both MHSC and ORSC root-zone files can be found there. <Fair-warning> This is the begining of the trail into the flame-laden domain-policy warz. If you don't want to deal with that then don't travel too deep. </Fair-warning>
-----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Murrell [mailto:bmurrell@turbolinux.com] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 4:29 AM To: rmeyer@mhsc.com Cc: jim@reptiles.org; vixie@mibh.net; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: piracy on parade
from the quill of "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> on scroll <000201bfed56$99e475c0$eaaf6cc7@PEREGRIN>
BTW if you really want to get hold of Joe, find him at http://www.dot.god
If you need a resolving server to get there, use
NS1.MHSC.NET.
Kinda off the topic a bit, but can somebody point me to a doc as to how I can "augment" my root server list in BIND-8 to include an NS record for GOD. of NS1.MHSC.NET. It does not seem to be as straightforward as one would think (by seeding the hints file with an NS and A record).
The only way I have been able to achieve this sort of thing is with forwarding zones and forwarders. It's messy and doesn't scale well.
Thanx, b. w
-- TurboLinux, Inc.
Brian: When you manage to connect to GOD - please feel free to brows the GOD namespace. I think we have about 400 domains which are surfable. Some are interesting - some are virtuals which are still misconfigured. User have not seen this list yet. http://www.dot.god/admin/www-directory-2000-06-13.html regards Joe Baptista http://www.dot.god/ dot.GOD Hostmaster +1 (805) 753-8697 On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
I have a lot of leads for this at www.dnso.net From there you can get to the ORSC sites and a few others. Examples of how to build your own root-zone files are at http://files.dnso.net along with a few papers MHSC has submitted to ICANN/WG-C and other places. Both MHSC and ORSC root-zone files can be found there.
<Fair-warning> This is the begining of the trail into the flame-laden domain-policy warz. If you don't want to deal with that then don't travel too deep. </Fair-warning>
-----Original Message----- From: Brian J. Murrell [mailto:bmurrell@turbolinux.com] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 4:29 AM To: rmeyer@mhsc.com Cc: jim@reptiles.org; vixie@mibh.net; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: piracy on parade
from the quill of "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> on scroll <000201bfed56$99e475c0$eaaf6cc7@PEREGRIN>
BTW if you really want to get hold of Joe, find him at http://www.dot.god
If you need a resolving server to get there, use
NS1.MHSC.NET.
Kinda off the topic a bit, but can somebody point me to a doc as to how I can "augment" my root server list in BIND-8 to include an NS record for GOD. of NS1.MHSC.NET. It does not seem to be as straightforward as one would think (by seeding the hints file with an NS and A record).
The only way I have been able to achieve this sort of thing is with forwarding zones and forwarders. It's messy and doesn't scale well.
Thanx, b. w
-- TurboLinux, Inc.
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:43:37 EDT, "!Dr. Joe Baptista" said:
When you manage to connect to GOD - please feel free to brows the GOD namespace. I think we have about 400 domains which are surfable. Some
I thought that most major religions required you to browse, then get connected, and refuse to consider any further surfing? But seriously - there's serious operational considerations involved if everybody doesn't have a consistent view of the DNS root - it's called Balkanization. -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
the sickos are in my kill file. but usually sane people responding to them is still allowed through. i may have to reconsider this. could we try to keep this list to internet operational issues, not the sick and sociopathic games of the pathetic morons? just hit delete, or better, procmail is your friend. thanks. randy
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:43:37 EDT, "!Dr. Joe Baptista" said:
When you manage to connect to GOD - please feel free to brows the GOD namespace. I think we have about 400 domains which are surfable. Some
I thought that most major religions required you to browse, then get connected, and refuse to consider any further surfing?
But seriously - there's serious operational considerations involved if everybody doesn't have a consistent view of the DNS root - it's called Balkanization.
I think that already happened a few years ago - now were playing with market share. It's won't get any better until we get rid of icann - which is solely responsible for the Balkanization which has happened to date. I'm sure in the end the dns mess will iron itself out. regards Joe Baptista http://www.dot.god/ dot.GOD Hostmaster +1 (805) 753-8697
-- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
Before you comment further on this, you might want to review what ICANN is doing, WIPO and the ICANN/UDRP, and what's going on in Yokohama this week. Especially if you are concerned about Balkanization or its polar opposite, totalitarianism. Strangely, the latter usually results in the former. Become informed, then comment. If you are not aware of the significance of Yokohama then you are seriously under-informed and you've just made a religious statement. In that case, Joe appears more informed than you, on this. Vix's comment, while unflattering, is an informed comment. Vix is aware of the issues and has taken a stance. Although, I don't think he is completely aware of the lanscape, lately. Others should review and decide for themselves, on an informed basis. In the final analysis, this may become a "suit" decision. For the record, I was one of the ICANN/DNSO/WG-C participants and one of the original backers of the "other" candidate for the ICANN slot, in 1998. You might start at www.dnso.net Further comments are probably off-topic for NANOG, at this time.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 11:52 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: piracy on parade
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:43:37 EDT, "!Dr. Joe Baptista" said:
When you manage to connect to GOD - please feel free to brows the GOD namespace. I think we have about 400 domains which are surfable. Some
I thought that most major religions required you to browse, then get connected, and refuse to consider any further surfing?
But seriously - there's serious operational considerations involved if everybody doesn't have a consistent view of the DNS root - it's called Balkanization.
-- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
On 07/14/00, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
But seriously - there's serious operational considerations involved if everybody doesn't have a consistent view of the DNS root - it's called Balkanization.
Very true. There are some who don't care about that, but in all the years they've been proposing alternate roots (and I, too, was in favor of the idea for a few months, early on), not one has ever had more than a handful of real users -- IMHO, this is due at least in part to the fact that the spokespeople for these schemes confuse invective with salesmanship. If your goal is to provide customers with access to the entire Internet, and to provide the entire Internet with access to your customers, then you'd be doing them a disservice if you encourage them to use non-standard top-level domains. Who was it who said "what if you had a revolution and nobody came?" (BTW, this has all been argued here many times before, both with and without kooks.) -- J.D. Falk "Laughter is the sound Product Manager that knowledge makes when it's born." Mail Abuse Prevention System LLC -- The Cluetrain Manifesto
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