as discussed in philly, and with encouragement of ops AD, ... if and only if you are an actual real live operator, i.e. have hands on routers of a non-trivial isp, or a non-trivial server farm, and will be at the stockholm ietf, we are planning an informal operators' dinner to discuss ops issues and agendas for the week's meetings. it would be sunday eve the 26th. maybe rsvp privately so i can get an idea of scale. feel free to include any issues you think important, so we can start an agenda. randy