--- morrowc.lists@gmail.com wrote: From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> One good reason to not do link encryption is: "the problem is that whackadoodle box you put outside the router!" :( most often those boxes can't do light-level monitoring, loopbacks, etc... all the stuff your NOC wants to do when 'link flapped,doh!' happens. ----------------------------------------------------- Yes! It is really hard to work with those things for the reasons you mention and they tend to be the culprit quite often. Also, a lot of times it adds more finger pointing as there tends to be a different group taking care of just the bulk encryptors. Last, I have seen some strange behaviors, such as not passing BPDUs. That makes VLANing *phun*. Not! scott