Nortel has a box called a Versalar Switch Router 15000. Is anyone using this in a production network? I am particularly interested in performance information. Regards, Tim -- Timothy Brown tim@tux.org
Let me change your question a little... Most hw vendors announces now intergared router-switches (CISCO NORTEL, etc); usially it is very fast but limited-features devices. The question - is anyone using such devices in the production networ? In the ISP network? On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Timothy Brown wrote:
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:26:44 +0100 From: Timothy Brown <tim@e-connectsolutions.com> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Anyone using?
Nortel has a box called a Versalar Switch Router 15000. Is anyone using this in a production network? I am particularly interested in performance information.
Regards, Tim -- Timothy Brown tim@tux.org
Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow (+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 230-41-41, N 13729 (pager) (+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax)
Let me change your question a little...
Most hw vendors announces now intergared router-switches (CISCO NORTEL, etc); usially it is very fast but limited-features devices.
The question - is anyone using such devices in the production networ? In the ISP network?
We were close to getting some for our network, but were unable to get any hard facts about people who are using them as "backbone" or "border" routers. In the end, we've decided to go with Cisco GSR's. The flaws we tended to find were with not enough enough memory to hold full routing tables, or a limit on the number of route entries. Another flaw was mentioned with regard to the route caching - something about needing to hold in table of which IP addresses were on which port (usual switch behaviour). Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: 01737 839676 Senior R&D Engineer, Online | Fax: 01737 839665 BBC Research & Development | Email: Simon.Lockhart@rd.bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey. | URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/
When CISCO announced their new router-switch products, they said _it do not support BGP in the first versions_. And I had impression _they positioned this boxes for the corporate networks only_, through I do not know which corporate network need to keep such _gigabit_ traffic (the only example I know are video-content--providers and new Voice-over-data telephone services. As a matter of facts, I think they (big router vendors) are moving from the Internet toward the corporate customers. And this make a free space for the new router vendors available... On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:18:44 +0100 From: Simon Lockhart <simonl@rd.bbc.co.uk> To: Alex P. Rudnev <alex@virgin.relcom.eu.net> Cc: Timothy Brown <tim@e-connectsolutions.com>, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Anyone using?
Let me change your question a little...
Most hw vendors announces now intergared router-switches (CISCO NORTEL, etc); usially it is very fast but limited-features devices.
The question - is anyone using such devices in the production networ? In the ISP network?
We were close to getting some for our network, but were unable to get any hard facts about people who are using them as "backbone" or "border" routers. In the end, we've decided to go with Cisco GSR's.
The flaws we tended to find were with not enough enough memory to hold full routing tables, or a limit on the number of route entries. Another flaw was mentioned with regard to the route caching - something about needing to hold in table of which IP addresses were on which port (usual switch behaviour).
Simon
-- Simon Lockhart | Tel: 01737 839676 Senior R&D Engineer, Online | Fax: 01737 839665 BBC Research & Development | Email: Simon.Lockhart@rd.bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey. | URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/
Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow (+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 230-41-41, N 13729 (pager) (+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax)
We are using the v15k as a T1 access concentrator....basically as an edge device to our ATM network. I have had good experiences with this box....it brings excellent telco/ISP integration for those of us who have to play both of those lines. I'm not sure what I can provide for performance information.....I can only describe how it handles many T1s at line rate. If you are looking for a T1 concentrator, I can not think of any box on the market that can rival it. If you have any further questions, I'll do what i can to answer them (with as little marketing spin as possible). Tony "Timothy Brown" <tim@e-connectsolutions.com> wrote
Nortel has a box called a Versalar Switch Router 15000. Is anyone using this in a production network? I am particularly interested in performance information.
Regards, Tim -- Timothy Brown tim@tux.org
-- Tony Mumm Lead Network Technician - netINS, Inc.
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